Unfit to Bear Arms

Foxy

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From the Christian Science Monitor

Unfit to Bear Arms
Justice leaves a loophole in Second Amendment
With just one sentence in a note to the Supreme Court this week, the Bush Justice Department reversed decades of executive-branch interpretation of the Constitution's Second Amendment regarding gun ownership.

The note was meant to persuade the high court not to review an unusual lower-court ruling that gave strong endorsement to an individual's right to have a gun. Perhaps the Bush administration is worried that the high court might take the case and reaffirm its 1939 ruling that the Second Amendment protects only the right of state-organized militias to keep and bear arms. It would like the lower-court ruling to stand.

Nonetheless, this reversal of long-held policy will likely open a long legal struggle over enforcement of present gun laws. It's important, then, to focus on loopholes – left wide open by the Justice Department's note – related to "reasonable" restrictions on gun ownership by "unfit persons."

The Second Amendment, it seems, is not absolute, no matter which side of the militia vs. individual-rights debate you're on.

Just who's "unfit" to own a gun? The 1993 "Brady Law," which imposes a waiting period and background check on gun sales by licensed firearm dealers, spells out nine "prohibited" categories, including felons, fugitives, the mentally ill, illegal aliens, and drug users.

But that list could be longer, if Congress or the courts so decide.

What about someone who irresponsibly leaves a gun lock open?

A 1996 Police Foundation survey found that 57 percent of handguns are usually kept unlocked. And a 1992 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that "individuals who have received training are more likely to keep a gun loaded and unlocked than those who have received no training." Such training alone does not ensure someone is fit to bear arms, and in fact may make them overconfident, unsafe owners.

A 1998 survey by the National Institute of Justice found more than half of high school students carrying a gun had been given it by a family member or had taken it without their parents' permission. Most of the time the gun was a semiautomatic handgun or a revolver. Who's "unfit" in those cases?

Out of the 7,875 handgun homicides in 1998, only 1.2 percent were justifiable handgun killings of an assailant unknown to the person defending themselves. Most killings with handguns are by people who know each other, and often such guns are used against their owner. Is someone owning a gun for self-defense really "fit" then to use it for that purpose?

The gun lobby wants the Second Amendment to protect "responsible" owners. But the statistics argue that too many owners are irresponsible, either in keeping or in using guns.

Gun ownership should be a tightly regulated privilege, not a loosely given right. Let's hope the Supreme Court sees it that way.

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They have a link to write to the editor. I've already made use of it, pointing out that most people who have a loaded and unlocked gun is most likely using it for CCW purposes, and that the myth of most handguns being used against someone they don't know is just that - a myth. From Guntruths.com:

With the broad definition of "acquaintances" used in the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports, most victims are indeed classified as knowing their killer. However, what is not made clear is that acquaintance murder primarily includes drug buyers killing drug pushers, cabdrivers killed by first-time customers, gang members killing other gang members, prostitutes killed by their clients, and so on. Only one city, Chicago, reports a precise breakdown on the nature of acquaintance killings: between 1990 and 1995 just 17 percent of murder victims were either family members, friends, neighbors and/or roommates.
 

fix

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Gun ownership should be a tightly regulated privilege

I wonder if they feel the same about a free press. One could argue that the media has done more damage to this country than guns ever will.
 

C.R.Sam

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"Shall not be infringed"

Not in the lock up, can keep carry or whatever. Break a law with it, go to the slam. Already covered.
 

Monkeyleg

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"A 1998 survey by the National Institute of Justice found more than half of high school students carrying a gun had been given it by a family member or had taken it without their parents' permission. Most of the time the gun was a semiautomatic handgun or a revolver."

Well, duh! How many kids try to carry a concealed rifle?

As for the 1.2% figure: when are the anti's going to stop using a low death rate as an argument against defensive gun ownership? Or should we all just start taking head shots if we think we're within the bounds of the law? Would 500,000 dead criminals make them happier?
 

Foxy

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straightShot

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Out of the 7,875 handgun homicides in 1998, only 1.2 percent were justifiable handgun killings of an assailant unknown to the person defending themselves. Most killings with handguns are by people who know each other,

Well, I guess that a battered wife or former girlfriend who shoots her attacker would be 'known' to her. Would this mean that her act of self-defense doesn't count since she 'knew' the perp?

It's amazing how these idiots twist statistics. It's even more amazing that some people swallow these same 'facts' without thinking for themselves.
 

Standing Wolf

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Gun ownership should be a tightly regulated privilege, not a loosely given right. Let's hope the Supreme Court sees it that way.

The terrorist savages who attacked the United States last September were far less dangerous than our own home-grown extreme leftists. The terrorist savages killed several thousand of us. Our home-grown extreme leftists are hell-bent on killing the entire nation.
 

Zander

Moderator
"Not in the lock up, can keep carry or whatever. Break a law with it, go to the slam. Already covered." -- my favorite Sam

Agreed!

But much too simple and logical to be passed into law by the fools who inhabit The Swamp. After all, we can't rely on folks to be responsible for their own decisions and actions, can we? :rolleyes:
 

DadOfThree

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And a 1992 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that "individuals who have received training are more likely to keep a gun loaded and unlocked than those who have received no training."

That is because once someone has been trained they realize that an unloaded locked up gun is really just a paperweight.
 

Hal

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And a 1992 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association
BWAAAAHHAAAAAAA!
LOL!
ROTFLMAO!

The CS Monitor quoting The AMA?!?!?!?!?!

Mary Baker Eddy must be spinning a million miles per over that!!
 
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