This is crazy

rgitzlaff

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No, it's a 60 year old vietnam vet who wore a T-shirt with the saying "If you run you'll only die tired" at a town meeting. He got into a heated discussion and pointed his finger at someone a couple of time "as if he was shooting a gun". The cops arrested him on charges of disorderly conduct.
 

wjkuleck

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It seems as though the web site is slammed; it finally came up:

Town's T-shirt tussle has Island Lake up in arms:
Trustees allege man made gun gesture


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Greg Kachka, 60, a retired Marine who served in the Vietnam War, shows the T-shirt he wore at an Island Lake Village Board meeting. He was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct for pointing his finger at a Village Council member during the meeting. (Tribune photo by David Trotman-Wilkins / May 1, 2008)



By Deborah Horan | Tribune reporter
11:35 PM CDT, May 1, 2008



The former mayor is under indictment, the Village Board is hamstrung by infighting and a defiant landowner has vowed to put a pig farm on his property to stop the town from building a water tower.

But the news on everyone's lips in far north suburban Island Lake is about Greg Kachka and his T-shirt.

The 60-year-old Vietnam veteran and former Marine was arrested at his home Tuesday and charged with two counts of disorderly conduct after two village trustees complained that, during a heated meeting, Kachka pointed his finger at them while wearing a shirt with a Marine Corps insignia that said, "Don't Move. If You Run, You'll Only Die Tired."

Trustees allege Kachka's thumb was raised and his index finger extended, as though he were firing a gun.

"It was repetitive," said Trustee Debbie Herrmann, who lodged the complaint against Kachka, along with Village Clerk Christine Kaczmarek. "Like a gun going off, cocking and going off again," she said.

Kachka swears he was simply wagging a finger at Herrmann after she allegedly mocked him for asking a question about village finances, and he had no intention of threatening anyone. Nevertheless, he faces a June 2 court date, and a conviction could bring up to 30 days in jail, 2 years of probation and a $1,500 fine.

"The police came to my house and said, 'We're investigating the incident at the city hall.' I said, 'What incident?' Then he asked me about how many guns I owned. He even took a picture of my T-shirt," Kachka said.

The incident has riled residents and pitted trustees against one another, putting Kachka, a retired mail carrier and disabled veteran, in the middle of what many residents describe as a political feud.

Residents disagree over how to govern Island Lake, population 8,000, amid allegations of corruption and mismanagement, particularly in response to Bob Wargaski's plans to build the pig farm on his 5 acres.

The village was also rocked by felony charges against former longtime Mayor Charles Amrich, who is accused of ordering that fuel for village vehicles only be bought at a gas station he owned.

Herrmann attributes much of the infighting to a small group of residents. She said the village had no choice but to take seriously Kachka's gestures during the March 13 meeting in light of recent shootings at Northern Illinois University and in St. Louis, where a disgruntled resident shot and killed several city employees during a zoning meeting.

"This is not a joke," Herrmann said.

But several residents and trustees said they viewed the charges against Kachka as ridiculous and have come to his aid to help pay court costs and potential attorney fees. A group called Citizens for Better Government in Island Lake has already posted Kachka's $500 bail and plans to sell T-shirts with the slogan to raise money for his defense.

"What they're doing to him is retaliation because he made statements and asked questions at board meetings that caused embarrassment to this administration," said Laurie Rabattini, who heads the group.

The incident began during discussion of a new ordinance that allows the village to build on property it owns without permits from the Zoning Board.

As Kachka tells it, he demanded to know how much time the village attorney had spent reviewing the legality of the ordinance, the cost to the city and who had authorized her work.

As Kachka sat down, he said he noticed Herrmann smirking and "screwing up her face." He pointed at her to draw the attention of other attendees, he said. Four days later, a police officer came to his door.

When Kachka asked what the accusation was, the officer told him he would have to submit a Freedom of Information Act request to find out, Kachka said.

About a week later, Kachka submitted the request to the village clerk and was denied, he said. He appealed the decision to the mayor, who also denied the request, he said.

On April 28, Kachka got a call from police telling him he was under arrest and ordering him to turn himself in, he said. The next day police went to his house and handcuffed him, he said.

Herrmann said Kachka was purposefully cocking his thumb in the shape of a gun. She leaned over to Kaczmarek to ask her if she'd also seen the gesture, she said.

"She said, 'Yeah,' " Herrmann said. "It was brought to the board's attention at the end of the meeting. It was the consensus of the board to go to the police."

Herrmann said the board provided police with a tape of the meeting that showed Kachka's hand gesture.

Rabattini and several other residents said Herrmann is known for making faces and rolling her eyes at residents who make comments she doesn't agree with.

"The Village Board is getting a lot of heat from residents," said Tom Martin, a former trustee who ran against Mayor ThomasHyde in 2005. "People get frustrated because questions aren't answered. The board doesn't listen. I felt this was the coup de grace, going after this disabled veteran. It's not right."


Regards,

Walt
 
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I am going out to buy a hot dog, Then I am going to sue the vendor because it was to hot. Your honor it says hot dog!!! I might win millions!!!!

Point a finger go to jail. This a great city. Oh I see it is ILL. Figures.......
 

Curtis(USAF)

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***rack?

Welcome to the wonderful world of thoughtcrime. "you thought about ventilating those ignorant hippies, its' obvious you are guilty."
 

toybox99615

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HUM make a threat and then wonder

well when you make a threat of any type in front of a public meeting you had better realize others might take the legal way of slapping your wrist. Even a simple "I'm going to get you" can be perceived as threatening by some people. If you feel threatened you have the right to complain.

Getting put out of a public meeting for your actions is not uncommon. Getting charged with some criminal action seems to be a bit overboard. But when you stir the pot you might not like the results you made.


And once again we see the BS line about having been a Marine. As if being a vet is somehow a justification for actions non-vets can't get away with.
 

thallub

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"And once again we see the BS line about having been a Marine. As if being a vet is somehow a justification for actions non-vets can't get away with."

Yep, you see it all the time. Veterans, even old ones, scare the sheeple when they ask tough questions.

BTW: The city deserves a hog farm.
 

FrontSight

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The most ironic thing is that so many PC people call the cops because they are scared, yet these PC people are the ones who keep making the world scarier and scarier!
 

zxcvbob

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I like the part where he was arrested but they refused to tell him what the charges were. (told him to file a Freedom of Information Act request, which was then denied)
 

rampage841512

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I like the part where he was arrested but they refused to tell him what the charges were. (told him to file a Freedom of Information Act request, which was then denied)

He wasn't told what the investigation was about and told to file a Freedom of Information Act request to get that information. When he was arrested, he was told what he was being charged with. Read the article again.

The case is nothing more than politics. The man pointed at someone who was mocking him and is getting hammered for it because that person is a politician. He exercised his right of free expression (the t-shirt, his statements), refused to be mocked, and now the aristos of his down are going to try and destroy him for being so uppity.
 

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His supporters should help identify the "trustee"

By getting a lot of those big foam hands with pointing fingers (that you see at sporting events) and help "point out" the officials who were "threatened".

Or just have everyone in town point and laugh at them as they walk by. personally, I would be tempted to gesture with another finger!

Ok, the guy is an ex-marine, and he owns guns. And he has his own opinon, and it ain't PC. Does that make him a threat? And I mean a creditable threat? Ex-marine with guns that doesn't like someone in government, I guess that automatically makes him a Lee Harvey Oswald just waiting for a motorcade. Doesn't it?

Wonder if this ex-marine, former mail carrier (going to go "postal"?) has any kind of history of violence, or even a speeding ticket? Maybe he does, and those "trustees" (I though trustees were found in prison?) are justifiably worried. Or maybe they are just using the letter of the law to try and teach him a lesson for having the nerve to try and make them accountable.

Either way this one bears watching.
 
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