The truth about the Wakefield Massacre

The specialist

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In the Boston Herald today Friday the 12th a person who was a friend of one of those killed wrote a letter to the editor. Unfortunately letters to the editor are not available online. A Mr David Bergquist writes: "Louis "Sandy" Javelle held both a Federal firearms liscense , and a permit to carry a handgun in New Hampshire. Ironically, the gun laws in Massachusettes prevented him from carrying a concealed handgun. But these same laws did not prevent Michael McDermott from obtaining illeagal firearms. When the rampage started, Sandy told co-workers to lock the door behind him and barricade it. He then confronted McDermott and became the third victim. If Sandy had been permitted to carry a pistol, he could have stopped McDermott. That meant that five other peolpe could have survived this tragedy, but Sandy did not have that option." I read that Mr Javelle was a Vietnam Vet. He no doubtedly could have saved lives had he had his pistol. He probably would have only saved himself and the last three shot down, but that is still alot in my opinion. Also notice how a law abiding citizen follows the law, and a criminal does not.
 

bestdefense357

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To The Specialist,

Please email me. I need a copy of that letter. Don't throw that newspaper away. This could help turn the gun debate around. As thumper said, this is BIG! It is imperative that we get this out.

Robert

bestdefense357@yahoo.com
 

Kharn

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My contribution:

I sent this email to my (Maryland) state representatives: I found an interesting editorial about the Wakefield Massacre that occurred on the 26th of December in the Boston Herald, January 12th edition, i thought you should read it:
A Mr. David Bergquist writes: "Louis "Sandy" Javelle held both a Federal firearms license, and a permit to carry a handgun in New Hampshire. Ironically, the gun laws in Massachusetts prevented him from carrying a concealed handgun. But these same laws did not prevent Michael McDermott from obtaining illegal firearms. When the rampage started, Sandy told co-workers to lock the door behind him and barricade it. He then confronted McDermott and became the third victim. If Sandy had been permitted to carry a pistol, he could have stopped McDermott. That meant that five other people could have survived this tragedy, but Sandy did not have that option." (A Federal Firearms license is the permit needed to deal in firearms)

Concealed carry is currently done on a "Shall Issue" basis in over 30 states, but in Maryland, it is a rather strange situation. "Shall Issue" means that if the police cannot find anything to disqualify a person, they must be issued a permit within a set time period (90 days is the norm). "May Issue" is when the police can arbitrarily deny a person the concealed carry permit, commonly without even an explanation. Maryland has a combination of both, the law states:
"A permit to carry a handgun shall be issued within a reasonable time by the Superintendent of the Maryland State Police, upon application under oath therefore, to any person whom he finds:" (Article 27, Section 36E(a), Annotated Code of Maryland (Handgun Laws), available online at http://www.inform.umd.edu/UMS+State/MD_Resources/MDSP/art27.txt )
One of the requirements to acquire a permit is as follows:
"6. Has, based on the results of investigation, good and substantial reason to wear, carry, or transport a handgun, provided however, that the phrase "good and substantial reason" as used herein shall be deemed to include a finding that such permit is necessary as a reasonable precaution against apprehended danger." (Article 27, Section 36E(a))
Also noted in the law:
"*Note: Phrase, "good and substantial reason", as used in subsection (a)(6) means something more than personal anxiety over having one's name connected publicly with anti-drug and anti-crime activities; it means something more than the concern the individual may have because he has been told by another that she heard some unidentified men threatening to harm the applicant. Snowden v. Handgun Permit Review Board, 45 Md. App. 464, 413 A.2d 295 (1980)."
This leaves the system open to abuse, where the police can use the system to reward their political allies, but ignore the rest of the population and denies them the ability to defend themselves. Maryland's permits are seen as almost impossible to get, the applicant usually has to carry large amounts of cash, being politically connected does not hurt, in order to get a permit and to be politically connected, if they even get one. The question I ask is: How much is a person's life worth? Is a child worth more then a business's profits for a week? A month? A year? Any parent that regularly transports a child should be able to get a concealed carry license. The people killed during the Wakefield massacre had no previous clues as to the coming danger; thus, under Maryland law they would have been denied a concealed weapons permit, when one person with a concealed weapon could have changed the course of the massacre.

Another section of the code reads:
"(d) Limitations in permit. --The Superintendent may, in any permit issued under this section, limit the geographic area, circumstances, or times during the day, week, month, or year in or during which the permit is effective. The Superintendent may reduce the cost of the permit accordingly, if the permit is granted for one day only and at one place only." (Article 27, Section 36E(d))
This section of the code is rather confusing. If a person is qualified to carry a handgun on their person, why should they be limited to certain circumstances? They should be allowed to carry it at any time they feel necessary. Criminals could research when a licensed person is able to carry a concealed weapon and then attack during one of the prohibited periods, negating the permit and guaranteeing that the licensed person does not have a weapon. Criminals do not obey the laws, they openly violate them, and while people that have concealed weapon permits are some of the most upstanding and law-abiding members of society. Thus, licensed persons should be able to carry a handgun at any time, baring extenuating circumstances such as in bars and courthouses (Both circumstances are already addressed in Maryland law).

It is unfortunate that our state remains an anti-self defense zone, where a person cannot defend him or herself, or his or her family with the most efficient implement available to them. How high would crime rates be if every rapist were shown the muzzle of a .38 Special by his intended victim? In closing, I ask you to please work to strike Article 27, Section 36E(A) 6. and Article 27, Section 36E(d) from the Annotated Code of Maryland. These portions of the code hamper citizens from defending themselves against criminals and leave us at the mercy of the worst members of the human race.

Thank you,
My Name
(The bold is shown as i had it in the letter)
 

Jeff Thomas

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I'm not questioning your info ...

But, supporting it - Louis Javelle is indeed listed as a victim of this crime ...

http://www.cnn.com/2000/LAW/12/29/office.shooting/index.html

At the start of the 45 minute service, the names of the victims were solemnly called out: Janice Hagerty. Cheryl Troy. Louis Javelle. Craig Wood. Paul Marceau. Rose Manfredi. Jennifer Bragg Capobianco.

Thanks for this information. Any more info re: Mr. Javelle will be helpful as well. NRA / GOA member? Regular shooter, perhaps competitor? This will be a helpful debate point, though I regret 'using' Mr. Javelle's tragedy in this manner ... I do hope he would understand.

Regards from AZ
 

The specialist

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I have scanned the ed piece and emailed it to thumper and bestdefense. Unfortunately I dont know if I am doing it right. One copy was sent as a .jpg and the other as a .exe. If anyone knows how to attatch it to this post, I would be more than happy to send it to you for posting here. Jeff as far as I now all I can tell you was that he was in the vietnam war. If you do research at the herald website you can look at past reporting and get whatever they have. Maybe we can get the guy that wrote the editorial to give us some answers. He is obviously on our side.
 

jaydee

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Specialist... You can send me the jpg at sgwcar15@yahoo.com, an dI can post it or you can post it on Photopoint, and provide a link to it here in this thread, using the "img" UBB tags.
 

WAGCEVP

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Will this help?

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News/Current Events Editorial Keywords: "MUCKO" MCDERMOTT, WAKEFIELD
MASS,HERO, GUNS, MASSACHUSETTS GUN LAWS, LIBERAL PUKES.
Source: Boston Herald(Letters)
Published: Friday, Jan 11, 2001 Author: David Bergquist
Posted on 01/13/2001 07:31:10 PST by Leisler



Louis "Sandy" Javelle was my friend. On Dec. 26 in Wakefield, he was killed
by a madman.

Sandy held both a federal firearms license and a permit to carry a handgun
in New Hampshire. Ironically, the gun laws in Massachusetts prevented him
from carrying a conceled handgun. But these same laws did not prevent
Michael McDermott from obtaining illegal firearms.

When the rampage started, Sandy told co-workers to lock the door behind him
and barricade it. He then confronted McDermott and became the third victim.

If Sandy had been permitted to carry a pistol, he could have stopped
McDermott. That ment that five other people could possible have survived
this tragedy. But Sandy did not have that option. David Bergquist, Temple,
N.H.
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Mr. Javell was murdered by the state of Massachusetts and the Democratic
Party, as much as they are resposible for the laws in this state. People
now hold everyone resposible, for everything( even if it was their own
fault), except government. The promise( a lie) was that if you follow what
we say, the bad men won't hurt you. Anyone who trust any government body or
employee, is a fool.

1 Posted on 01/13/2001 07:31:10 PST by Leisler
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Hello All, KABA has a scanned image of the letter up at their site and this letter has been printed before here on TFL. Not sure of the thread at the moment; but about January 16, if I remember correctly.
 
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