T/C #13 or #17 cleaner ?
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jaguarxk120
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I have no idea, use soap and water just like everyone else.
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Pick up a copy of the muzzle loading cap lock rifle by Ned Roberts, great read.
Oliver Sudden
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Like the others I haven't used them but they maybe useful. Sales people will supply the products for any perceived need. You can't make money with out product. Water is still the best solvent. I use it cold with a dab of what ever soap is handy then oil well. But then I've only shot muzzle loaders for around fifty years, mostly custom built guns but plenty of store bought ones too.
Cold water will work, hot just works a little better. I don't use it boiling hot because I like to hold the cylinders and barrel under water while I force water through them with bore mops. Of course boiling water may preclude the use of bore mops, it's just the way I've always done it.
Your call !!!
1) Water with some kind of soap.
2) Solvents
3) A combination of 1 & 2
If you are set on water, use method #3
Be Safe !!!!
Not only do you not need hot water, you don't need water at all. The use of hot or cold water, is a personal choice. There are basically three methods of cleaning;
1) Water with some kind of soap.
2) Solvents
3) A combination of 1 & 2
If you are set on water, use method #3
Be Safe !!!!
Just another SWAG !!!
Back in the 80's when I started using #13, there was only BP and Pyrodex soon followed. There were a number of BP solvents that were basically the same. You could tell by the smell of Murphy's oil soap. Most were very effective in working with Sulphur based propellants. Today there are many alternative propellants and I have to think that #17 addresses those as well .....
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In the early years, I used TC-13, and have not taken the opportunity work with #17. Seems to me that it might be addressing the use of Sabots. In recent years I have switched to a 50/50 mixture of Balistol and Mineral Spirts. So, for now, that is what I'm stuck on. There are many positives to Ballitol and the only negative may be, the smell. ......
Back in the 80's when I started using #13, there was only BP and Pyrodex soon followed. There were a number of BP solvents that were basically the same. You could tell by the smell of Murphy's oil soap. Most were very effective in working with Sulphur based propellants. Today there are many alternative propellants and I have to think that #17 addresses those as well .....
Be Safe !!!
Water is a great solvent but not always for metal.
Now then, after you get done with your water, what do you do? You wipe it down with some kind of liquid metal protectant to prevent any rust. That protectant acts as a solvent to clean up the water residue. First you fight the salts which are cleaned up very well by the water mixture and then you fight the product of the water, witch is rust. ......
Hawg, Tell me that after your water use, you hang her back up, on the wall.?
I think not ???
Be Safe !!!
Water is a solvent and not only the best but the only liquid used for cleaning everything. .......
Now then, after you get done with your water, what do you do? You wipe it down with some kind of liquid metal protectant to prevent any rust. That protectant acts as a solvent to clean up the water residue. First you fight the salts which are cleaned up very well by the water mixture and then you fight the product of the water, witch is rust. ......
Hawg, Tell me that after your water use, you hang her back up, on the wall.?
I think not ???
Be Safe !!!