Surprised I haven't seen this discussed - Trayford-Pellerin shooting

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mehavey

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/outra...illing-of-trayford-pellerin-as-he-walked-away

From what read/see, this was a slow-motion disaster from all aspects.

> Police said they encountered Pellerin in the parking lot of a Circle K
> gas station in Lafayette while responding to a report of a disturbance
> involving a knife-wielding man around 8 p.m. Friday. He left the
> parking lot when cops attempted to arrest him, instead walking
> about a half-mile to the Shell station, police said.
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> Witness...said she saw Pellerin get tased by police, then continue
> walking with what she thought was a knife in his hand. She said
> he was surrounded by six officers with guns drawn when he was shot
> and killed, as he reached the door of the Shell station.

Notwithstanding the cops could NOT let him enter that confined gas station KwikMart w/ that knife (at which point gun-knife-fight in a closet surrounded by civilians was the logical/disastrous outcome), how was he allowed to literally walk for 10-minutes to another venue w/o being physically blocked in by squad cars and stopped ?

But once he reached the 2nd Gas Station door -- it was options-gone/game-over.

[Naturally, the media and ACLU are going nuts.]
 
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WeedWacker

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how was he allowed to literally walk for 10-minutes to another venue w/o being physically blocked in by squad cars and stopped ?
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You can't just use police cars to barricade someone. It's easy to hop over the hood or step over an obstruction the squad car couldn't navigate. As it stands, they had control of the environment up until he attempted to enter another business, that was 10 minutes of him having a chance to change his mind and surrender. He could have charged the cops at any time. If the cops were competent (which it appears they were) they would have used distance to remove the contact-distance advantage of a knife should they need to respond with lethal force and Pellerin wouldn't have been able to reach them in time and he probably recognized the futility of trying a bum rush the police.
 
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mehavey

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From (very) limited perspective: The guy looked to be in an almost zombie-like trance state. Never responded, never changed gait, never changed direction, TASER didn't affect him . . . never did anything but walk as though in another world.

I'm pretty sure the question "why didn't you block him?" (and at least force a change of state) will be at the top of the list of questions.
Maybe they did, and maybe he did "hop over the hood" if/when they tried.

i"ll be interested to hear the outcome.
 
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Hate to be a Monday morning quarterback but if in fact the suspect had been carrying a knife in his hand unsheathed or unfolded and had failed to comply with lawful orders and having been tazed several times, deadly force would probably have been warranted before the suspect made it as far as he did.

It wasn't like he was walking across a big field. Wasn't it an urban/commercial area with a lot of opportunities for the suspect to have hurt someone?

Unless maybe if the suspect had been without sight and hearing.
 
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PolarFBear

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Don't laugh. Here's a thought. What about training officers to use the old west method of capture; a lasso. A couple of lines from two directions would "apprehend" the suspect nicely. And, keep the officers out of knife distance.
 
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ghbucky

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Don't laugh. Here's a thought. What about training officers to use the old west method of capture; a lasso. A couple of lines from two directions would "apprehend" the suspect nicely. And, keep the officers out of knife distance.
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I can only imagine how the media would run with images of a black man being lassoed by white cops.
 
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