Senator McCain per Glenn Beck

xrocket

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Here is Senator McCain's second amendment stance as published today by Glenn Beck.

It is a straight forward validation of an individuals right to keep and bear arms.


Special Report: Senator McCain on Guns

My support for the 2nd Amendment
By John McCain

Glenn Beck fans, gun rights are an important issue, and I wanted to share with you some highlights of the speech I will deliver today at the National Rifle Association annual meeting. I think they will give you some good insight into my strong belief in the Second Amendment.

"When I first ran for Congress in 1982, I was proud to have the support of gun owners. For more than two decades, I've opposed efforts to ban guns, ban ammunition, ban magazines, and dismiss gun owners as some kind of fringe group unwelcome in "modern" America. The Second Amendment isn't some archaic custom that matters only to rural Americans, who find solace in firearms out of frustration with their economic circumstances. The Second Amendment is unique in the world. It guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms. To argue anything else is to reject the clear meaning of our Founding Fathers.

"Self-reliance is the ethic that made America great, and our Founders understood that. They knew there would be circumstances where Americans might need to use firearms to protect themselves and their families. Some Second Amendment detractors think this is a mere abstraction, or a relic of America's distant past. But Americans exercise their Second Amendment rights every day to protect themselves from criminals, as happened in Scottsdale, Arizona where earlier this year, a 74-year-old woman defended her home from a man who repeatedly attempted to break in, extort money and threatened to set fire to her garage. The Second Amendment - and its guarantee of an individual right to keep and bear arms - is certainly not an abstraction.

"But the clear meaning of the Second Amendment has not stopped those who want to punish firearms owners - and those who make and sell firearms - for the actions of criminals. It seems like every time there is a particularly violent crime, the anti-gun activists demand yet another restriction on the Second Amendment. I opposed the ban on so-called 'assault weapons,' which was first proposed after a California schoolyard shooting. It makes no sense to ban a class of firearms based on cosmetic features. I have opposed waiting periods for gun purchases."

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"Like your members, I am a committed conservationist. I have long supported multiple uses for public lands that ensure they are available for this and future generations to hunt, fish and explore. Over 12 million hunters in the United States contribute $25 billion to the economy, much of it in rural areas. Hunters pay billions of dollars in federal revenue through license and other fees. Here in Kentucky, hunters spend over $400 million and support thousands of jobs."

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"Over the years, I haven't agreed with the NRA on every issue. I have supported efforts to have NICS background checks apply to gun sales at gun shows. I recognize that gun shows are enjoyed by millions of law-abiding Americans. I do not support efforts by those who seek to regulate them out of existence. But I believe an accurate, fair and instant background check at guns shows is a reasonable requirement. I also oppose efforts to require federal regulation of all private sales such as the transfer between a father and son or husband and wife. I supported campaign finance reform because I strongly believed our system of financing campaigns was influencing elected officials to put the interests of "soft money" donors ahead of the public interest. It is neither my purpose nor the purpose of the legislation to prevent gun owners or any other group of citizens from making their voices heard in the legislative process.

"Those disagreements do not detract from my long record of support for the Second Amendment and the work we have done together to protect the rights of gun owners from the political attitudes of the moment in Washington that view the Second Amendment as a once quaint custom that must now yield to the judgment of modern enlightened opinion. We have real differences with the Democratic candidates for President. They have learned something since 2000. They don't talk about their plans for gun control. They claim to support hunters and gun owners. But just because they don't talk about gun control doesn't mean they won't support gun control. Let's be clear. If either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama is elected President, the rights of law-abiding gun owners will be at risk. They have both voted as Senators to ban guns or ban ammunition or to allow gun makers to be sued out of existence.

"It seems every election, politicians who support restrictions on the Second Amendment dress up in camouflage and pose with guns to demonstrate they care about hunters, even though few gun owners fall for such obvious political theater. After Senator Obama made his unfortunate comment that Pennsylvanians 'cling to guns and religion' out of bitterness, Senator Clinton quickly affirmed her support for the Second Amendment. That drew Senator Obama's derision. 'She's running around talking about how this is an insult to sportsmen, how she values the Second Amendment,' he said. 'Like she's on the duck blind every Sunday, . . . packin' a six shooter!' Someone should tell Senator Obama that ducks are usually hunted with shotguns.

"Senator Obama hopes he can get away with having it both ways. He says he believes that the Second Amendment confers an individual right to bear arms. But when he had a chance to weigh in on the most important Second Amendment case before the U.S. Supreme Court in decades, District of Columbia v. Heller, Senator Obama dodged the question by claiming, 'I don't like taking a stand on pending cases.' He refused to sign the amicus brief signed by a bipartisan group of 55 Senators arguing that the Supreme Court should overturn the DC gun ban in the Heller case. When he was running for the State Senate in Illinois, his campaign filled out a questionnaire asking whether he supported legislation to ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns with simple, 'Yes.'

"The Heller case should be decided soon. But however that case is decided, the federal judiciary will continue to be an important forum for protecting Second Amendment rights. The next President will appoint literally hundreds of federal judges, and is likely to have the opportunity to nominate one or more Supreme Court justices."

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"Quite rightly, the proper role of the judiciary has become one of the defining issues of this presidential election. It will fall to the next president to nominate qualified men and women to the federal courts, and the choices we make will reach far into the future. My two prospective opponents and I have very different ideas about the nature and proper exercise of judicial power. We would nominate judges of a different kind, a different caliber, a different understanding of judicial authority and its limits. And the people of America - voters in both parties whose wishes and convictions are so often disregarded by unelected judges - are entitled to know what those differences are."

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"The decisions of our Supreme Court in particular can be as close to permanent as anything government does. And in the presidential selection of those who will write those decisions, a hunch, a hope, and a good first impression are not enough. I will not seek the confidence of the American people in my nominees until my own confidence is complete - until I am certain of my nominee's ability, wisdom, and demonstrated fidelity to the Constitution."

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"But I would like to close my remarks with an issue that I know is much on the mind of Americans - the war in Iraq. Senator Obama has said, if elected, he will withdraw Americans from Iraq quickly no matter what the situation on the ground is and no matter what U.S. military commanders advise. But if we withdraw prematurely from Iraq, al Qaeda in Iraq will survive, proclaim victory and continue to provoke sectarian tensions that, while they have been subdued by the success of the surge, still exist, and are ripe for provocation by al Qaeda. Civil war in Iraq could easily descend into genocide, and destabilize the entire region as neighboring powers come to the aid of their favored factions. A reckless and premature withdrawal would be a terrible defeat for our security interests and our values. Iran will view it as a victory, and the biggest state supporter of terrorists, a country with nuclear ambitions and a stated desire to destroy the State of Israel, will see its influence in the Middle East grow significantly.

The consequences of our defeat would threaten us for years, and those who argue for premature withdrawal, as both Senators Obama and Clinton do, are arguing for a course that would eventually draw us into a wider and more difficult war that would entail far greater dangers and sacrifices than we have suffered to date. Thanks to the counterinsurgency instigated by General Petreaus, after four years of terribly costly mistakes, we have a realistic chance to succeed in helping the forces of political reconciliation prevail in Iraq, and the democratically elected Iraqi Government, with a professional and competent Iraqi army, impose its authority throughout the country and defend its borders. We have a realistic chance of denying al Qaeda any sanctuary in Iraq. We have a realistic chance of leaving behind in Iraq a force for stability and peace in the region, and not a cause for a wider and far more dangerous war. I do not argue against withdrawal because I am indifferent to war and the suffering it inflicts on too many American families. I hold my position because I hate war, and I know very well and very personally how grievous its wages are. But I know, too, that we must sometimes pay those wages to avoid paying even higher ones later. I want our soldiers home, too, just as quickly as we can bring them back without risking everything they suffered for, and burdening them with greater sacrifices in the years ahead. That I will not do. I have spent my life in service to my country, and I will never, never, never risk her security for the sake of my own ambitions. I will defend her, and all her freedoms, so help me God. And I ask you to help me in that good cause. Thank you, and God bless you."


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FireMax

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From a man who doesn't even own a gun.

Now if he would repudiate his ridiculous support for global warming, maybe he would be "moderately" attractive to a conservative voter.
 

xrocket

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No, he is not a Neo-con.

Those days appear to be over for the foreseeable future.

McCain is starting to position himself as a moderate who can work with both sides including the conservative side of Democrats. There is a large area of moderate to conservative Demo's who can't stomach their elitist socialist left wing. It will take time to build a coalition in the middle, but McCain might be able to do it.

His problem, to get elected is he turns off the far right of his own party and they will choose to capitulate and not vote. He does not inspire the Republicans and he will have a hard time raising the funds to compete with his competition.

Doesn't anyone remember when to be a Democrat was considered to be conservative and a Republican a liberal? It wasn't that long ago.
 

toybox99615

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Imagine that

So here is a politician looking for your vote as a gun owner. So to impress you he has his staff write a position paper that shows he supports you. And of course relative to his position are his rants and ravings over how Iraq and Obama relate to his RKBA position. :barf:

He left of the God, Motherhod and apple pie lines!
 
Don't be fooled!

I opposed the ban on so-called 'assault weapons,' which was first proposed after a California schoolyard shooting.

How long do you think that "position" will remain unchanged once he's in the Whitehouse? I'll bet we're one "incident" away from Senator McCain changing that "position".

I have supported efforts to have NICS background checks apply to gun sales at gun shows.

Only at Gun Shows? Read on...

I also oppose efforts to require federal regulation of all private sales such as the transfer between a father and son or husband and wife.

Only those exceptions? What about if I want to sell one of my rifles to my neighbor? What If I have known this neighbor for twenty-five years and know that he isn't a criminal?

What would you bet we'll both have to drive down to our local FFL and beg permission from the FBI first?

Gun show loophole? There'll be a loophole in the loophole discovered immediately after they pass this one.

Don't believe him. I believe he is an opportunist and a liar.

But you all go ahead and vote for the lesser of three evils if you want to. You're still voting for evil.

PR
 

mountainclmbr

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For the last 10 years the temperature has been dropping. If this McEgg head did not get the CPUSA memo that it is now to be called "climate change" to avoid embarrassment from things going the wrong way, what can we expect? McCain will be spending our national budget on Y2K next time you pay attention. Note to Juan: It is "CLIMATE CHANGE"! If it is going up it is change. If it is going down it is also change. If it does not change, people are preventing change. Barack is for change! McCain needs to take more dope to jump on this political bandwagon. He seems superstitious and stupid to me. The others are smart and evil, a bad combination.
 

wayneinFL

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But you all go ahead and vote for the lesser of three evils if you want to. You're still voting for evil.

Unless you're the one running for office, you're not going to find a candidate who supports all of your views completely. It's impossible. No two people are alike.

Who are you voting for?
 
Based on his campaign finance reform legislation: McCain - Feingold, it's safe to conclude that McCain has little knowledge of or respect for the US Constitution.

Can he be trusted not to throw gun owners under a bus if need be? Based on his capitulation to the Democrats over the Judicial nominees I'd say no.
 
Wayne:

If I vote, I'll vote for Ron Paul.

I do have another choice. I can refuse to participate in a farce.

I will vote for neither the Bolsheviks nor the Mensheviks.

PR
 

Wildalaska

Moderator
I do have another choice. I can refuse to participate in a farce.

I will vote for neither the Bolsheviks nor the Mensheviks.

Thank god, I have always beleived that one should vote in an educated fashion.;)

Wildandthatstatementshowsonewassleepingduring20thcenturyhistoryinschoolAlaska TM
 

xrocket

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I will never disparage anyone's vote choice ...

But, when you choose to not vote or cast a symbolic vote without conviction each of us no matter our politics as Americans lose.




The more I think about it the more I seem to lean toward Libertarian.​



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Sarge

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McCain on the McCain-Feingold Amendment:

It is neither my purpose nor the purpose of the legislation to prevent gun owners or any other group of citizens from making their voices heard in the legislative process.

But it's just fine with McCain if our voices are silenced during the elective process- when all those legislator's 'chickens come home to roost'.

Weasel-ass.
 

FireMax

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His problem, to get elected is he turns off the far right of his own party and they will choose to capitulate and not vote...

... or vote for Bob Barr, the only conservative in the race. Pro-liberty, pro-privacy rights and of course PRO-GUN!
 

Wildalaska

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Pro-liberty, pro-privacy rights and of course PRO-GUN!

Yeah a womb nanny called "pro liberty"...:confused:

The problem with true progressives is that we have let the fringes of both sides make up their own definitions.

McCain winning this election will be the best thing that happnes to the body politic...it will begin to drown out the screeching on both sides.

Sarah palin for VP!

WildthereisthenewfaceofprogressivepoliticsAlaska TM
 

FireMax

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WildAlaska
McCain winning this election will be the best thing that happnes to the body politic...it will begin to drown out the screeching on both sides.

Yes. If those darned screechers on the right would stop pointing out that McCain is a liberal, he might just have a chance. If we could only leave this election to those in the middle, those who will "get along" with the left... they are our saviors. :eek:

WildAlaska
Yeah a womb nanny called "pro liberty".

Bob Barr thinks Roe vs Wade was wrong because he thinks the Federal government should stay out of the issue. He believes the states should decide. That is a traditionally Republican/Conservative position. Nothing bad there, unless you enjoy the idea of the Federal government intruding in your private life.
 
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