anonimoose
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Shooters,
A while back I started a thread on concealed carry firearms most similar to the M9. Wanted to resurrect the thread...but my question is just a tad different.
Which semi-automatic firearms are identical to the Beretta 92FS with regard to the manual of arms?
Feature #1: has a hammer-fired DA/SA trigger
Feature #2: has a slide (not frame)-mounted safety that you sweep up to fire (and down to place on safe)
Feature #3: has a safety that also acts as a decocker
Feature #4: has a grip-mounted magazine release (not trigger guard-style)
Feature #5: does not have a magazine disconnect safety
As you can see, it's a pretty restrictive list. The hammer-fired DA/SA trigger rules out the striker-fired pistols that are all the rage these days (Glocks, Springfield XDs, etc). Those firearms that do have the traditional DA/SA trigger either don't have manual safeties (Sigs) or they've got frame-mounted/sweep down to fire safeties (many CZs, many HKs, the newest Rugers).
From what I can tell, the only answer to my question (besides other Berettas!) is...the Walther PP and its variants.
There are, of course, a few others that come awfully close:
Bersa Thunder .380, 9, etc -- however, they have magazine disconnect safeties
Makarov PM -- however, it has the magazine release at the bottom of the grip
Smith & Wesson third generation autos like the 39xx, 59xx, etc -- however, they have magazine disconnect safeties
Taurus PT92 -- however, it has a frame-mounted safety
Walther P22, PK380 -- however, they have a trigger-guard magazine release, a magazine safety disconnect, and the safety does not work as a decocker
Am I missing anything? Would very much welcome additions, corrections or clarifications.
respectfully,
Moose
A while back I started a thread on concealed carry firearms most similar to the M9. Wanted to resurrect the thread...but my question is just a tad different.
Which semi-automatic firearms are identical to the Beretta 92FS with regard to the manual of arms?
Feature #1: has a hammer-fired DA/SA trigger
Feature #2: has a slide (not frame)-mounted safety that you sweep up to fire (and down to place on safe)
Feature #3: has a safety that also acts as a decocker
Feature #4: has a grip-mounted magazine release (not trigger guard-style)
Feature #5: does not have a magazine disconnect safety
As you can see, it's a pretty restrictive list. The hammer-fired DA/SA trigger rules out the striker-fired pistols that are all the rage these days (Glocks, Springfield XDs, etc). Those firearms that do have the traditional DA/SA trigger either don't have manual safeties (Sigs) or they've got frame-mounted/sweep down to fire safeties (many CZs, many HKs, the newest Rugers).
From what I can tell, the only answer to my question (besides other Berettas!) is...the Walther PP and its variants.
There are, of course, a few others that come awfully close:
Bersa Thunder .380, 9, etc -- however, they have magazine disconnect safeties
Makarov PM -- however, it has the magazine release at the bottom of the grip
Smith & Wesson third generation autos like the 39xx, 59xx, etc -- however, they have magazine disconnect safeties
Taurus PT92 -- however, it has a frame-mounted safety
Walther P22, PK380 -- however, they have a trigger-guard magazine release, a magazine safety disconnect, and the safety does not work as a decocker
Am I missing anything? Would very much welcome additions, corrections or clarifications.
respectfully,
Moose
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