S&W 686 Plus .357 Magnum

kilotanker22

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Recently traded a Glock 43x for a S&W 686 plus. Now that I have had the opportunity to shoot it, I am impressed. I almost feel bad for the guy I traded the Glock to. The revolver is way nicer.

Anyway, who makes the best sights for these guns? Not a huge fan of the factory installed sights. I would love to have some sort of ghost ring sight for it if such a thing exists. What say the people of this forum?
 

rodfac

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Ghost rings on handguns...are really a peep sights with a more open aperture. Peeps are effective when close to the eye as when mounted on a rifle's receiver.

In use, you look through them and focus on the front sight/target. A handgun, held at arms length or even close in will not allow that, & loses significant precision offered by a standard front post and rear leaf sight. They hinder accuracy at distance and offer no speed advantage for close in shooting.

That's the reason they've not become common in over a century of revolver use.

You've traded for a truly outstanding revolver...I have one, albeit a six-shot, that's superbly accurate...on the order of sub 2" groups at 25 yds with the factory supplied sights. It's a bit heavy in 4" bbl. lengths, but that is offset by its performance with full house magnum loads where the weight helps subdue what some have called "heroic" recoil. With target loads, wadcutters at the old FBI load velocity of ~900 fps, it's a *****cat and a good choice for carry. Good luck with yours.

Best of luck. Rod
 
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kilotanker22

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Ghost rings on handguns...are really a peep sights with a more open aperture. Peeps are effective when close to the eye as when mounted on a rifle's receiver.

In use, you look through them and focus on the front sight/target. A handgun, held at arms length or even close in will not allow that, & loses significant precision offered by a standard front post and rear leaf sight. They hinder accuracy at distance and offer no speed advantage for close in shooting.

That's the reason they've not become common in over a century of revolver use.

You've traded for a truly outstanding revolver...I have one, albeit a six-shot, that's superbly accurate...on the order of sub 2" groups at 25 yds with the factory supplied sights. It's a bit heavy in 4" bbl. lengths, but that is offset by its performance with full house magnum loads where the weight helps subdue what some have called "heroic" recoil. With target loads, wadcutters at the old FBI load velocity of ~900 fps, it's a *****cat and a good choice for carry. Good luck with yours.

Best of luck. Rod
Ya know, I had never considered that's why you don't see those sights on handguns. Your logic is sound.

Mine has a 6" barrel. The factory ammo I have launches a 158 grain projectile at 1350 fps (PMC Bronze Hunting ammo). It is a little heavy, but very nice gun. Handles recoil admirably. Came with a crimson trace grip so I will fiddle with getting it sighted in next range visit.

The guy I got it from lost the thumb piece and thumb piece nut to open the cylinder. Called S&W and they are sending me one for free. I was totally willing and expected to pay for that part.
 

603Country

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I bought a 686+ a couple of years ago, to allow me to take my Python out of the shooting rotation. I had a gunsmith smooth out the trigger to the equal of the Python (single action). If I had to make one shot for money or my life, I think I might reach for the 686+. I load up 158 gr Keith type lead bullets (moderate loads) and 125 gr JHP (warmish loads).
 

Smaug

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Congrats. I too think you got the better end of that deal, but some folks feel like automatic is the only way to go; firepower over shot power or accuracy.

Did you get the 4" barrel or 6"? (or other)
 

rodfac

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Kilo...those Crimson Trace laser grips might appeal to you over time. I was strongly against them initially, but got a chance to try them out on a friend's wife's Smith M-637 and soon changed my mind especially for training/analyzing trigger control problems.

She was a brand new shooter when he brought her around. (had almost been raped during an afternoon home invasion). My pal bought her the gun for carry in her purse but needed a place to do some training with her. Our farm range was perfect and we got started.

At first, she held the gun like a dead rat, but with a little coaching, was soon keeping a cylinderful of target velocity wadcutters on an 8x10 piece of copy paper at 7-10 yds. The gun was a used one and came with a set of Crimson Trace laser grips which she tried out and was soon shooting 2-3" groups at the same distances...and double action too. The red dot laser really showed up her problems with trigger manipulation.

I tried them out & found they really showed up any errors in trigger control. In actual use, especially for night work, say at across the room, garage etc. distances, I think the laser would really help.

However, in daylight it's tough to find the laser dot. In my opinion, but their still really useful teaching/correction grip/trigger problems & techniques. It's painfully obvious when the shooter is pulling the trigger off to one side etc. as the dot bounces around!

Lastly, those CT grips feel great... I have size "L" paws and they fit me just fine even on that little "J" frame Smith...and my buddy and his wife have the same opinion as to fit...they're really good.

Best of luck with your 686 and hope you get the cylinder latch fiasco sorted out. The 686's truly one of S&W's greatest handguns. Rod
 

gwpercle

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A company called ... One Hole Sights makes a rear sight blade for Ruger revolvers , it is a large hole / peep sight ... you look through it and focus on the front sight / target .
Now ...it's a neat set up but ... there's always a but ... I don't know if they make S&W sight blades ... You would think they would make them ... a lot of folks shoot S&W !
Do a search on the name One Hole Sight .
Williams Gunsight Co. may also make a peep sight or set , front & rear, check
www.williamsgunsight.com
Gary
 

kilotanker22

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After shooting this gun a few times I am impressed. I have never really been a fan of revolvers, but this one is proving to be a ton of fun to shoot.
 

kilotanker22

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I got the cylinder thumbpiece and thumb piece nut from S&W in the mail today. Took two weeks to get here, but when its free I guess I cant complain.
 
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