I was talking Tokarevs just last night with a friend. He has a few Norincos and I have one. He also is someone who's judgment I trust, and who works a few hours per week at a local gun shop. This gun shop also has a actual real gunsmith on the premises along with refinishing, machine work, rebarreling, etc. In other words not just a counter top operation. He has a favorable opinion of the Romanians with the exception of the added on safety, but I guess we have no control over that bit. The Yugos have a longer grip frame but not all parts interchange with the Yugos. The Norincos are solid guns and shoot well with the usual bit about a somewhat rougher finish. The Russian guns bring the premium. I may get a Romanian myself. As far as having a fun full power centerfire semi auto that does not break the bank to shoot they are hard to beat. You will likely have to file some off the rear sight to zero it. Loud, big fireball. Fun. The Romanians are also from the land of Vlad the Impaler so you will have that going for you.