Remington 512 jamming problem.

[Lavan]

I've had this rifle since 1949. Even berore serial numbers.
Used it a LOT. Also kept it clean.

It has had a SPORADIC feed/jam problem for a while.
Now I seldom shoot it because my other 22s are reliable.

But.... I do like to take it out for nostalgia shoots.

SOMETIMES it will work flawlessly. Other times it will feed the ctg up under the top one and jam the hell out of it.

Quite a digging and poking session to get it out.

Anyone know the cause of such a situation?

Thanks.

 

[4V50 Gary]

Other times it will feed the ctg up under the top one

Please elaborate. Is there still a shell in the chamber or is it trying to double feed?

 

[Lavan]

IIRC, the empty is being extracted while it tries to feed 2.

 

[Doyle]

I've also got a 512 - great rifle. Here are my thoughts:
1. - The Extractor is not releasing when you pull the bolt all the way back.
2. - The Ejector isn't kicking the spent cartridge up enough.

 

[Lavan]

Actually it seems as if the cartridge lifter is coming up too far.
It jams but if I take down and shove the lifter back down, it works.

But not for long.

I was thinking along your lines and started SMARTLY yanking the bolt open to be s ure the ejector had a good run on the rim.

 

[Lavan]

Well fugme! I twiddled around with the receiver screws and got it working ...dry.
Safety on and counting rounds....

BUT.... although it seemed to function, the BOLT quit on the retraction after several cycles.

Aiyee!

I tried loosening the action screw and I ..think.. that affected it somewhat.

BUT.... finally... just yanking the hell out of the bolt overcame WHATEVER is/was holding it from opening completely.

Tell me this isn't a boat anchor.

 

[Lavan]

Anyone know a good smith around Central California?

It's a STAMPED gun so the relationship of parts isn't intuitive.
Believe me, I have looked into, poked, prodded, adjusted screws....EVERYTHING.

But I do not know the mechanism well enough to determine what keeps what from doing what.

For the umpteenth time, I took it out again this morning and got it "working" again. But it won't LAST!

Gary T. in Sacto had it for 8 ...MONTHS... .and did nothing but keep the gun.
He said he took it out and shot it and "Boy is it ever swell!"

But he didn't FIX it. First time out and it was doing the stuff again.
I've looked at the innards and the blowup diagrams but can't see how it really works.

I need a smith who knows these older guns.

Does anyone HERE repair these old things?
Or know anyone who might tackle it?

 

[T. O'Heir]

I'm not 100% convinced it'll help(sounds like a mag follower/tube issue to me. Might just be an ammo/bullet shape thing though.), but here's a manual.
http://stevespages.com/pdf/remington_512.pdf
Exploded drawing is here. http://stevespages.com/ipb-remington-510.html

 

[tangolima]

I will gladly fix it for you if you are in the Southern California. My shop is in Escondido.

-TL

 

[4V50 Gary]

It's not a feeding issue and sounds to me more like an extraction and ejection issue. Remember, this is a bolt action and the user controls every function of the action.

Is it extracting all the way? If so, then the ejector isn't ejecting. BTW, clean beneath the extractor claw. Clean the chamber too. Check the ejector to see if it's worn. Does it extract and eject dummy shells?

A while back I worked on the newer Rem 513(T) and recently had an article accepted on it by American Gunsmith.

 

[Lavan]

Sad to say I think it's both.
I read a link that said in cheapie guns like this, one should retract the bolt hard.
Okay, the bolt came out in my hand.
When the bolt is in, it feeds fine.
But not for more than maybe 5 cycles.
What I think I have to realise is that this gun is simply worn out.

I think there is probably major wear and peening and many staked screws to mess with.

I kept it looking near new but shot it for years and have since gotten a 10/22 and a 9422, both of which are all I ever take out shooting.

So...the unfortunate reality seems to be that it would take a LOT more work than its worth.

Economically if not sentimentally.

So I think it's destined for the extreme back of the safe and full retirement.

I just can't bear to toss it in the river.

 

[4V50 Gary]

Lavan

The chamber probably needs cleaning. Start there.

Then the bolt should be fully disassembled and clean. My article in American Gunsmith on the Rem 513 should come out next year and it will tell you how to take it apart and put it back together. The bolts don't change much on those 500 series. You need a pin punch and a vise.

Gary

 

[4V50 Gary]

BTW, Serial # may be on the bottom of the barrel and hid by the stock.

 

[Lavan]

Cheap 22's without serial numbers were quite common.

My old man bought this where we bought our guns

Lambert's Bar and Sporting Goods in Stockton, CA.

Bar on one side of room and guns on the other side.

and no wait on long guns.

Guess nobody got REAL mad at the wife when they were drinkin'.