Reclaimed Shot for reloading
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What is a good price ? It will be a number of different size of shot . A lot of 7.5 some Number 6 - 8 -9 and some dirt sand rocks and other trash .
I have seen a lot of reclaimed shot it is all the same pea gravel and junk . It is ok for practice and will not hurt the barrel as the wad will keep the trash from it . Buy a jug or two dump it out and look at it .
I have seen a lot of reclaimed shot it is all the same pea gravel and junk . It is ok for practice and will not hurt the barrel as the wad will keep the trash from it . Buy a jug or two dump it out and look at it .
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serf 'rett
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Must be clean.
If flatten/dented/etc (which I suspect it will be), could you get into casting handgun or rifle bullets - if it's cheap or cheaper than cheap?
If flatten/dented/etc (which I suspect it will be), could you get into casting handgun or rifle bullets - if it's cheap or cheaper than cheap?
It would work out to about a savings of $1.75 to $2.00 / 25 (box) for the 40-50 boxes that we (my son and I) provide three times a year for our family gathering trap shooting at my nephew's farmette.
The seller assures me it is very clean and sorted (may have a very few pieces of smaller shot (8-9) but nothing water soluble and no rocks (which are removed by tumbling over/through blowers, I watched it happen). I am not concerned with "blown patterns" since this is very close range (almost next to the trap).
Can't do too much harm to the four Rem. Express 870s ( 2 20ga. and 2 12ga a youth and adult) we have for just for this, keeps most folks hands off my good guns).
I am of the opinion that the $250-300 I will save will be better used for components by us for us!
The price of a 30 gal barrel is "negotiable" and would not occupy much space in my garage. And, it is cheaper than bulk casting lead so I can always turn it into DEWCs....
The seller assures me it is very clean and sorted (may have a very few pieces of smaller shot (8-9) but nothing water soluble and no rocks (which are removed by tumbling over/through blowers, I watched it happen). I am not concerned with "blown patterns" since this is very close range (almost next to the trap).
Can't do too much harm to the four Rem. Express 870s ( 2 20ga. and 2 12ga a youth and adult) we have for just for this, keeps most folks hands off my good guns).
I am of the opinion that the $250-300 I will save will be better used for components by us for us!
The price of a 30 gal barrel is "negotiable" and would not occupy much space in my garage. And, it is cheaper than bulk casting lead so I can always turn it into DEWCs....
FrankenMauser
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As long as it has been washed, screened, and re-graphited, it should be fine.
I use reclaimed shot (7.5-9) in most of my 12 ga, .44 Mag, and .444 Marlin loads. (And I will use it in 20 ga, when I start reloading for it.)
The rifled barrels of the .44 Mag and .444 Marlins obviously throw their own wrench into things; but the 12 ga loads pattern just as well as low end 'target' loads. With some wad experimentation, I could probably improve patterning, but I don't really care. The patterns are good enough to for small game hunting and breaking clays, and that's all that I care about.
The shot that I use has a small amount of steel mixed in (maybe 8-12 pellets per 15 lb), but it's easily removed with a magnet. Any pebbles that managed to hang around in the mix are easily removed by pouring the shot into a shallow pan and giving it a quick once-over.
Even so, those contaminants are a non-issue if you're using a shot cup (or standard wad). Pebbles and steel shot will only cause a problem if it contacts the bore, such as in loads using fiber wads, nitro cards, or cork wads in place of shot cup style wads.
Most of the pellets in what I use have notable dents and deformities. It isn't substantial, in that they're flattened or have grown three heads; but there are noticeable dents from the shot charge getting compressed when it was fired the first time.
And, just as a note...
I'm not running this through $250 Mossbergs. I run those loads through 2 heirloom Winchester 12 ga shotguns.
With a plastic shot cup, contaminants won't hurt the barrel.
I use reclaimed shot (7.5-9) in most of my 12 ga, .44 Mag, and .444 Marlin loads. (And I will use it in 20 ga, when I start reloading for it.)
The rifled barrels of the .44 Mag and .444 Marlins obviously throw their own wrench into things; but the 12 ga loads pattern just as well as low end 'target' loads. With some wad experimentation, I could probably improve patterning, but I don't really care. The patterns are good enough to for small game hunting and breaking clays, and that's all that I care about.
The shot that I use has a small amount of steel mixed in (maybe 8-12 pellets per 15 lb), but it's easily removed with a magnet. Any pebbles that managed to hang around in the mix are easily removed by pouring the shot into a shallow pan and giving it a quick once-over.
Even so, those contaminants are a non-issue if you're using a shot cup (or standard wad). Pebbles and steel shot will only cause a problem if it contacts the bore, such as in loads using fiber wads, nitro cards, or cork wads in place of shot cup style wads.
Most of the pellets in what I use have notable dents and deformities. It isn't substantial, in that they're flattened or have grown three heads; but there are noticeable dents from the shot charge getting compressed when it was fired the first time.
And, just as a note...
I'm not running this through $250 Mossbergs. I run those loads through 2 heirloom Winchester 12 ga shotguns.
With a plastic shot cup, contaminants won't hurt the barrel.
Depends on the price IMO
As we all know, the days of $10/25lb bags of new shot are over. $50/25lb seems like the new norm. If you want to be able to beat the $60/case ($6 a box) price of El-Cheapo Federal and Herters, you've got to have some cheap shot.
Power @$25lb = 5.4 cents per 15gr load.
Primer is 3 cents.
wad is $15/500 = 3 cents per shot.
hull is free
(11.4 cents X 25) = $2.85 a box before shot.
$50/25lb = 12.5 cents per 1oz load. (11.4 + 12.5)X25 = $5.98 a box
$10/25 = 2.5 cents per 1oz, (11.4 + 2.5)X25 = $3.48 a box
I sure wouldn't bother reloading target fodder with new shot unless I had some secret sauce recipe for competition.
As we all know, the days of $10/25lb bags of new shot are over. $50/25lb seems like the new norm. If you want to be able to beat the $60/case ($6 a box) price of El-Cheapo Federal and Herters, you've got to have some cheap shot.
Power @$25lb = 5.4 cents per 15gr load.
Primer is 3 cents.
wad is $15/500 = 3 cents per shot.
hull is free
(11.4 cents X 25) = $2.85 a box before shot.
$50/25lb = 12.5 cents per 1oz load. (11.4 + 12.5)X25 = $5.98 a box
$10/25 = 2.5 cents per 1oz, (11.4 + 2.5)X25 = $3.48 a box
I sure wouldn't bother reloading target fodder with new shot unless I had some secret sauce recipe for competition.
FrankenMauser
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Arsenic is used to aid heat-treating. It doesn't really do anything for hardening, outside of that situation.
And, you'll only find it in "magnum" shot. Most reclaimed shot that I've seen is 90-95% soft lead shot, with 5-8% being a high tin alloy. Very little magnum shot will be found in the average lots of reclaimed shot, unless it's coming from a range with a lot of shooters that use high end loads.
The average shotgunner uses cheap stuff, loaded with plain old, soft lead shot. So that's the vast majority of what you see.
I use reclaimed shot. It is a mix of everything that has been fired at the range.
Anything from #4 to #9 and add in some steel shot. What I get has been cleaned and re-graphite coated (does that sound right?).
Reclaim works great for skeet and 16 yard trap. It works so so from the 27 yard line and pattern is blown out quit a bit to shoot any longer range.
I don't have much luck with reclaim at the 34 yard line.
This is all fired with a full chock.
Anything from #4 to #9 and add in some steel shot. What I get has been cleaned and re-graphite coated (does that sound right?).
Reclaim works great for skeet and 16 yard trap. It works so so from the 27 yard line and pattern is blown out quit a bit to shoot any longer range.
I don't have much luck with reclaim at the 34 yard line.
This is all fired with a full chock.
Savings is the reason to use it ....and in a 12ga or 20ga its probably fine. I would not use it for competition - but practice is just fine.
A couple of thoughts:
a. you can test how "round" it is, by taking some of it - and a piece of plate glass....angle the plate glass a little ..and pour some of the shot down the plate glass....if its runs true its round / if it wobbles sideways a little, then its not so round....
b. it should be graphited ...but over graphited is not good ...it could gum up your press if its over graphited. If you get a lot of dust off it...you'll just have to make a judgement call on how clean it is.
c. lay some on the sheet of glass ...flat ...and look over the sizes....
and compare it to what you may have on hand from an OEM.
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There is a difference in the quality of the shot - between the low cost retail shells ( Estate, etc ) vs premium shells like Remington STS ....and I don't think Estate uses reclaimed shot in their low end shells...but if you did the same plate glass test....its dirty and it will not run true down a piece of glass...
A couple of thoughts:
a. you can test how "round" it is, by taking some of it - and a piece of plate glass....angle the plate glass a little ..and pour some of the shot down the plate glass....if its runs true its round / if it wobbles sideways a little, then its not so round....
b. it should be graphited ...but over graphited is not good ...it could gum up your press if its over graphited. If you get a lot of dust off it...you'll just have to make a judgement call on how clean it is.
c. lay some on the sheet of glass ...flat ...and look over the sizes....
and compare it to what you may have on hand from an OEM.
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There is a difference in the quality of the shot - between the low cost retail shells ( Estate, etc ) vs premium shells like Remington STS ....and I don't think Estate uses reclaimed shot in their low end shells...but if you did the same plate glass test....its dirty and it will not run true down a piece of glass...
FrankenMauser
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Tell us how you really feel.
It won't "get out". A few pellets might be able to make contact with the bore if they're pressed through the slits, but you won't have escapees running amok in the bore like a load of overturned cattle on the highway.
You stick to whatever it is that you do for your overpriced shotguns and large volume of ammunition, and I'll stick to reality with my family treasures and low volume.
Geezerbiker
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Doesn't shot have a higher percentage of antimony in it than bullet lead? If so, I'd talk to them about buying their reject shot for bullet casting...
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Magnum Mike
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I'd shoot it! I've seen some pretty bad new shot too. It wont all be magnum shot either. There will chilled,soft, and magnum mixed. Cant be any worst than elcheapo shells. I drop my own shot and it's not perfect, but it breaks targets.
Buzzard Bait
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hmmm
Where do you get it? How much is shipping?
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Where do you get it? How much is shipping?
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