Questions about 2 old single shot shotguns???
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oneounceload
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Factory swivels leads me to believe you have a field gun - most likely for ducks and geese with 30" barrels. I would suspect that of the other one as well
They look to be in great shape. Have them checked out, and if safe, go enjoy them
They look to be in great shape. Have them checked out, and if safe, go enjoy them
I concur with my friend, 1-oz, they look like gentleman's fowling pieces. The reason to have a sling swivels is because the gun in question is intended to be toted to the hunting area, or from area to area. Target guns, when not in action, are in a rack or transported in a case.
Zippy...I see what U are sayin...but these are not high dollar guns...only cheap single shots.........Only came with upgraded features.........Normally a double field gun was plainer than others of the same model..........I doubt even any Stevens double guns came in a case.........I also own a Lefever 410 gauge..single barrel..no rib......It says long range trap on it......It never came in a case.........
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Bighead....Oh..I was just confused that a cheap single shot would be made in a deluxe version.........I have seen a lot of guns..but very few of these........Cheap single shots were utilitarian...........I guess there was not much use for these type guns..therefore their scarcity...........
I find it ironic that my trap Lefever did not come with a rib...........
I find it ironic that my trap Lefever did not come with a rib...........
Keg, I used "case" to mean that target guns are typically transported in something with a handle, be it a hard or soft "case" -- being in a "case" they are in a safe condition. On the other hand, a hunting gun may be carried at the ready with a sling, anticipating a target of opportunity.
There are historically significant early LeFevers and then there are the later Ithica LeFevers. After WWI, many gun companies were bought up by others who didn't always respect previously well regarded brand names. The single barrel LeFevers were made by Ithica from 1927 until WWII. You mentioned your Lefever is a .410 marked Long Range Trap. Think about it, have you ever heard of long range trap being shot with a .410-bore gun? I haven't. It may be a youth model loosely modeled after a 12-ga target gun.
IINM, from what I've been able to learn, Lefever Arms made a single barrel Trap gun with a ventilated rib and a Long Range Trap and Field model, as yours is described, but not a Long Range Trap model. Perhaps the and Field is missing from your gun or difficult to see. Obviously, there is a great difference in value between the Trap guns made by D.M. LeFever between 1904-06 and the later ones made by Lefever Arms.
Zippy....Yes..I had to go drag it out...It has been a long time..........It is a Long Range Trap and Field gun................And Yes..There is a lot of diffenence between the Ithaca guns and the DM Lefever guns..........I bought it because it was an interesting little gun.................Even more confusing..A field gun also used for trap..........hmmmmm
Youbetcha, it happens all the time... there are two types of trap shooters: Those who want to be as proficient as their natural abilities will allow. These are the guys who typically have guns that are specifically made or modified for trap shooting. On the other hand, there are those who just want to improve their general shotgunning skills. They're usually shooting a field gun with an occasional shorty in the mix. They range from Christmas morning new to being older than the shooter.
I suspect the Lefever Arms folks thought a gun named Long Range Trap and Field would be more appealing than one called up-graded general purpose. I don't have a clue why it includes Long Range. Perhaps they didn't want to use just Trap and Field because it had been the name of a magazine since 1890.
As for using a field gun on a trap field, as long the shooter is aware of basic rules and etiquette, there are no problems. It's a bother when a newbie is assigned to post #1, and he doesn't know the duties of the squad leader. A field auto-loader can you into trouble if it doesn't have a restricted ejector. Another newbie no-no is using inappropriate ammo. The new shooter is often unaware that larger pellets will carry beyond the range's designed shot fall safety zones. Also, some clubs have minimum barrel requirements. Every now and then, there's the newbie who gets upset when he is called for violating the "load one shell at a time" rule -- don't try out your new mag extension while trap shooting.
Following the postings, here at the shotgun forum, I find it interesting how many new shooters are unaware of the basic rules and courtesies when they try the shotgun sports. They frequently complain about some gun club's unreasonable rules and then refer to them as snobs.
oneounceload
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Ain't THAT the truth..............maybe it's because they are so used to shooting at some indoor pistol range with lane dividers and others who know nothing about the rules and etiquette..............
Zippy...Actually U can find em in most everyone's front yard around here.......LOL
Proper etiquette means shooting from the front porch..Always empty your can or bottle before U take a shot.........Flattened cans for skeet..Longnecks for trap(for the extra distance)..........note: this generally works best with an assistant thrower(I prefer the buxom female type)..........
Basic rules and courtesies are always adhered to...........
Proper etiquette means shooting from the front porch..Always empty your can or bottle before U take a shot.........Flattened cans for skeet..Longnecks for trap(for the extra distance)..........note: this generally works best with an assistant thrower(I prefer the buxom female type)..........
Basic rules and courtesies are always adhered to...........
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Olddrum1.........thanks........I did find this.........
CHAMPION MATTED RIB MODEL----------------------------------1912-1942
Single barrel centered mounted rebounding hammer; top lever break open mechanism; solid raised full length rib finely matted; American Black Walnut full checkered pistol gripped butt stock, and fore-end; gagues 12,16 and 20; barrel length: 28, 30 and 32 inches full chocked; weight with 30 inch barrel 12 gague 7 ¼ lbs., 16 and 20 gague 7 pounds; automatic extractors or automatic ejectors; case hardened frame and blue barrel; overall length with 30 inch barrel 45 inches; .410 bore added in 1928 with a 28 inch full chocked barrel.
This model will also be found marked with the WESTERN FIELD brand name
The special trap model had a vent rib instead of matted.....only difference
CHAMPION MATTED RIB MODEL----------------------------------1912-1942
Single barrel centered mounted rebounding hammer; top lever break open mechanism; solid raised full length rib finely matted; American Black Walnut full checkered pistol gripped butt stock, and fore-end; gagues 12,16 and 20; barrel length: 28, 30 and 32 inches full chocked; weight with 30 inch barrel 12 gague 7 ¼ lbs., 16 and 20 gague 7 pounds; automatic extractors or automatic ejectors; case hardened frame and blue barrel; overall length with 30 inch barrel 45 inches; .410 bore added in 1928 with a 28 inch full chocked barrel.
This model will also be found marked with the WESTERN FIELD brand name
The special trap model had a vent rib instead of matted.....only difference