Question about twist rates: .223

baddarryl

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Hi all. I am looking for a bolt action .223. My question is if I go with a 1:7 or 8 twist rate to stablize heavier bullets at longer range how would a twist like that affect varmit bullets? Mostly will be used for target 4-600 yards, but may also pop the odd coyote at closer ranges. If not I still have an AR with 1:9 for those guys. Thanks.
 
Although everyone refers to the bullets by weight, what really drives the twist-rate war is bullet length. The Army was quite happy with a 1:8 or 1:9 twist until someone came up with the idea of using the same tracer ammunition from the SAW in the M16 platform. As tracer compound is lighter than lead, it required a longer tail section and longer OAL; this is why the faster twist became necessary. Per Article courtesy of American Rifleman

As far as I know, a 1:7 twist won't adversely affect bullet weights at least down around the 55-gr area.
 

Jimro

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If you are using good bullets the expected additional dispersion going from a 1:12 twist to a 1:7 twist is less than one third of an MOA do to additional dispersion due to bullet imbalance.

Jimro
 

g.willikers

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Probably the only way you will know which ammo works best in your rifle is the old fashioned way - try them and see.
You know, shoot 'em and see where they land.
There's such a huge variety of .223 bullet designs out there.
Lots of length differences among bullets even with the same weight.
Like Jimro sez, will there even be a large noticeable difference.
After all it's still a .22. :)
 

joed

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I have a Colt M4 with 1:7 twist. It shoots 75 gr and 69 gr bullets very well but 55 gr just aren't that accurate. Others claim great accuracy with 55 gr bullets out of a fast twist, couldn't tell it by mine.
 

overthere

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If you will not shoot beyond 600-700 yards then a 26 or 28 inch 8 twist barrel would work fine. You would be able to shoot 80 grain bullets which do great at those distances and shooting 55 grain bullets out of an 8 twist also works well.

If you want to shoot further than that, with 90 grain bullets, then you should go with a 7 or even 6.5 twist at 28 or 30 inches.

Note that to shoot the 80 grain projectiles you need a long throat and for the 90 grainers a really long throat (in order to get the velocities needed while keeping pressures down).
 

handlerer2

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According to the Speer Manual a bullet fired from a 1/7 at 3500fps is doing 330,000rpm. This is more angular momentum than some varmint bullets are designed for. I have never loaded anything near 3500fps in 223, if it is even possible.
 
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