Question about .50 AE

Ding

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Since I've found out that "AE" in .50 AE stands for Action Express, one question has been eating away at me. Why?

PS: Since we're on the subject of acronyms, what does FS in Beretta 92FS stand for?
 

Ding

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So, what does FS actually mean?

PS: Ignore the AE question, I've just discovered a more appropriate thread for it.
 

cfb3

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The
F is manual safety
FS is manual safety/decock
D is decock only.
There is also an "S" , but I have not found that one yet.
 

cfb3

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Found it: :D

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All models feature a “chamber loaded” indicator.
 

Gino

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The Beretta 92F was the original gun sold to the military. When the infamous "slide breaking and flying in your mouth" incident with the SEALs happened, Beretta put a safety on the gun so that the slide would not fly off of the gun if the slide broke. The S in 92FS means that the gun has this "anti eating Italian steel" safety.
 

AndABeer

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I'll take a stab at the Action Express moniker. The .41 Action Express was/is a cartridge where the case rim was of the 9mm dimensions but where the case body was blown out to accept .41 caliber slugs. So you ended up with a cartridge where the case rim was of smaller diameter than the case body. This was done to easily convert pistols chambered for 9mm to a larger bore. Similarly the ladies and gentlemen at Magnum Research took their pistol (Desert Eagle) chambered for .44 Magnum, kept the case rim diameter and blew out the case body to accept .50 caliber slugs. Now as to whether the case body of the .50 AE is larger than the rim, I don't think so, but cannot speak to it for sure because I have only seen pics.

In short, I believe those guys over in Israel apply the AE to new cartridges that are obtained by keeping the case rim dimensions of popular calibers and expanding the case body to accept larger projectiles. Perhaps Action Express was coined because they are able to design the action quicker because they already have pistols with the correct breechface or it means you can have a quickly convertable action in two calibers.
 

hksigwalther

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AndABeer,

The case rim of the .50AE is indeed smaller than the case body (near the rim). Rim is ~0.511", case is ~0.534"

One of the benefits of an Action Express is that usually, only the barrel, recoil spring, and mag is needed to convert. For the .41AE, your using the 9mm bolt/slide, for the .50AE, the .44mag bolt/slide. This is also quite beneficial for production also as you don't have to produce a different bolt/slide assembly for the AE rounds.
 

Thumper

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Aristophanes

The L frame Smith is the beefed up K frame. You've seen 'em before...the 586/686.

The M frame is represented by the Smith & Wesson Pocket Revolver. It was a 7 shot .22 designed as a defense gun.

cfb3 was close on the Beretta designations, except "D" is double action only, not decock. The designation for decock only is "G" for Gendarmes. The Gendarmes, or french police, originally requested this style.

AE is for Action Express, as already discussed.
 
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