Please help me identify this gun

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A.K.Naugle

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Hey! I am currently visiting my grandfather, and he has quite the selection of guns, anything from a Russian AK 47 to a snub nose 38 special. But one gun is a curiosity. We have no idea what it is. The barrel is to small to hold a .22, so i think its some sort of .17. its single load, and it pumps like an older BB gun with its pump on backwards, you have to pull a bar down from the barrel towards the stock in order to open the chamber and cock the gun. I have some pictures, but along with a label on the top, that is English and Chinese for "made in china" there is a code/number on the lever/pump up by the pivot point: on the right side of the gun(as if held to shoot it) there is the code 022304, and on the left side there is the code 162004. the right number could be a date, but im not use what February 23, 2004/1904/1804... etc. has to do with anything. Here are some pictures of the gun:
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Scorch

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First off, it's not a firearm, it's an air rifle. .177 caliber, the most common.

Next, it looks like one of the Chinese trainers, fixed barrel bottom lever cock.
 
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Smoke & Recoil

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What you have is a very low cost pellet rifle (air gun). The lever that you
described to pump it is the cocking lever...just a one time motion for that.

More than likely .177 caliber which is very available.
I'm sure you realize the rear site is missing.

In my area, value would be as high as $30.00
 
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A.K.Naugle

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So its a BB gun? strange, the barrel is to big for BBs it seems, they roll right out of it.
Thanks for your help. My grandfather will be glad to know what it is.
 
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JohnKSa

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So its a BB gun? strange, the barrel is to big for BBs it seems, they roll right out of it.
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It is not a BB gun, it is an air rifle made to shoot 0.177" pellets that are traditionally made of lead. The pellet must be soft enough to take the rifling without jamming in the bore.

Typical BBs are made of steel and are too hard to take the rifling without jamming in the bore. Therefore BBs are made undersized (usually about 0.172") so that they don't jam the gun. Guns that are made to shoot BBs typically have some sort of retention device (sometimes magnetic) that keeps the BBs in place until the gun is fired. The exception to the size rule for BBs is that there are lead BBs available and they are typically sized about the same as a lead pellet because they are soft enough to take the rifling and still pass through the bore.

I agree that it is a Chinese air rifle--looks like it may be an "Industry B3" or variant. When they work they are decent rifles, just be careful when you use them. The one I had eventually started firing when I closed the cocking lever--a feature that I didn't care for at all. Fortunately they are very inexpensive so it wasn't a major loss when I ended up having to scrap it.

When cocking the gun, control the cocking lever at all times. If something lets go and the cocking lever slams closed while your finger is in the loading port, the results will be impressively unpleasant. Also, be sure that the muzzle of the rifle is pointed in a safe direction while closing the cocking lever in case yours starts acting up like mine did.
 
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BillM

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Had a couple of them, plus a pistol variant. Kind of like Chinese SKS's--they were made
in a variety of small factories. Single stroke piston .177 cal air rifle. As others have said,
meant for lead pellets, not steel BB's. IIRC 15 years ago they went for $20, rifle or
pistol. No safety. Triggers run from decent to horrible. Surprisingly accurate.
 
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jaguarxk120

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Generally most air rifles are made in .177 caliber, but some have been made in .22.
If a BB rolls out of the barrel, I would say it might be .22
 
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Hawg

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Generally most air rifles are made in .177 caliber, but some have been made in .22.
If a BB rolls out of the barrel, I would say it might be .22
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There's scores of different brands making them in .22 and even .25. A bb will roll out of a .177 if it doesn't have a magnet holding them in.
 
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