New Project: Hawken

[ligonierbill]

I was going through junk collected over the years, some inherited, and I came across a percussion lock and a set trigger. The lock is new, the L&R upgrade for CVA and Traditions version of the Hawken. Can't let that go to waste, so I ordered a half stock and barrel from TOTW plus a "late Hawken" buttplate. There is a trigger guard, too, but it doesn't look much like the Hawkens used. So, more parts to order. Experience tells me inletting the lock and buttplate will keep me out of the bars for quite awhile. The barrel is .58, on the high side, but I already have a Chambers flintlock in that bore. Why change?

This is #4 on my project list, but life's short.

 

[Schlitz 45]

I love a good BP project & haven’t done one for a while. I’ve built 4 Hawken rifles all in .54 & have sold 3 of them after being offered more than I thought they were worth but I’d never factored my time plus the silver, turquoise, & MOP inlays that I embellished them with to make them my own. Please post some photos of your progress as you get into it & good luck.

 

[stagpanther]

the silver, turquoise, & MOP inlays that I embellished them with to make them my own.

That sounds awesome--any pictures if you're willing to share?

 

[armoredman]

A buddy of mine gets my brass shavings from the power trimmer and melts them down to do inlays on muzzleloader stocks.
Looking forward to the finished product!

 

[Hawg]

.58 is not on the high side for a Hawken. .50 is a tad small for one. If I was building one I would find every book I could on original Hawken rifles and follow them as close as I could. At the very least I wouldn't use any brass on it and it would have two barrel keys. I actually did that on the one I had built. I had it done with the correct slanted breech and dolls head tang. The barrel is a tad short at 31 inches but not unheard of.

 

[Pahoo]

Great Adventure !!!

Experience tells me inletting the lock and buttplate will keep me out of the bars for quite awhile.

Great project on both efforts. I've only put together four kits and rebuild a number of these. None from scratch. Currently working on redoing a Patriot as the previous owner, took too many short-cuts. .....

The best advice I ever got on building one; Was to be patient with yourself and the project. ...

Enjoy and;
Be Safe !!!

 

[Schlitz 45]

The Hawkens had silver wire mountain inlays, turquoise lakes, & black & white pearl animals-no photos available of them. My most recent BP project has abalone & MOP inlays along with a very cool finish on the barrel, a couple photos

& the Hawken’s companion Lyman Plains pistol in .54

I left my current Hawken rifle pretty plain as I needed it finished for a hunt, something I may revisit at some point.

 

[stagpanther]

Very cool! Thanks for posting.

 

[ligonierbill]

Oh, it's fun! Stock is backordered, but that's OK. I have ordered Hawken Rifles: The Mountain Man's Choice, but I should clarify. This will be "Bill's Plains Rifle" based on Hawken architecture. I will make no claim to authenticity. I hope it looks good and shoots better. But it won't be a Hawken. I'm having enough trouble warming up to this new fangled caplock.

 

[ligonierbill]

Ah, TOTW is quoting 90 days for the stock. Meanwhile I am gathering parts and studying. Baird's book is out of print but available (for a price). Worth it, though. I didn't know how much I didn't know about the Hawken brothers and their rifles. I'm used to working with brass furniture, but Hawg is correct: all Hawkens were iron mounted.

This may fall in the "famous last words" category, but I think this will be easier than the flintlocks I've done. These rifles are so well designed: hell for stout but very straightforward.

I will leave the barrel at 36", no reason to shorten it, but people did just that back in the day. Bore diameter apparently was customer specified and varied quite a bit. They also wore out and recut a lot of barrels. Baird's description of Mariano Modena's rifle (Colorado Historical Museum) sounds like the proverbial 100 year old axe.

 

[Hawg]

When I had mine built I wanted a longer barrel but the man that built it said he had a NOS Douglas barrel for an early CVA Mountain rifle. For the price he quoted I couldn't say no. The barrel was originally 33 inches but he cut the drum breech off and installed a Hawken slanted snail breech so it came out at 31 inches. I figured on changing it out later on but it just shoots too good.

 

[ligonierbill]

Well, it took a lot longer than 90 days, but I did eventually receive the stock. Got started a couple months ago, fitting the patent breech to the barrel and inletting the tang and barrel (precut channel, but purposely a bit small). Starting the lock. I got a video by Herman House that is very helpful, but it does humble me to watch how smooth and accurate he is with a chisel. So far, no difference from the flintlocks I've done, although I don't have to drill a funky angled hole for the rear lock screw (and there's only one).

I need to compliment TOTW. It took awhile, but the stock is a nice piece of wood and pretty well sanded to start. Expect periodic reports.