Moderator forgiveness is asked. It's not firearms related, but it's related to generalities with identities.
I have a friend of mine who lives in upstate NY. He's 23 years of age. He lives with his mother and her room mate. As a result of social anxiety disorder (At least that's the reason given), he recieves an SSI check from the government direct deposited.
He himself never sees the check. Though the check itself is in his name, the account is a joint account between him, his mother, and her room mate.
Now, before any of you start harping on "Oh, this guy is a leech on our tax money", let me explain a little further on what exactly is going on:
When the friend was growing up, his "family" was under constant scrutiny by child welfare authorities with him and his siblings. The room mate's kids were also targeted. This created an atmosphere of almost constant paranoia and control during his childhood.
At 23, he's still there at the house. He not only pays rent to the room mate (taken out of the account without his consent), there's also strict rules that he has to follow. He has to clean up extensive messes left by others, and cannot go outside without their permission. If he does leave without it, when he gets back, he gets verbally abused by the room mate until he either tells them the truth, or tells them what they believe to be the truth.
It gets even worse. Apparently, the income that the room mate gets from the rent is supplementing the room mate's income. The room mate's kids were taken away from her over a year ago. CPS requires reporting of the income of the person before even considering giving the kids back to the parents. With how little money she makes, the extra 300 dollars helps bolster her argument that she can have the kids back because she's more financially stable.
Unfortunately, they remind my friend of this a lot. I've pretty much convinced him that he's not responsible for her laziness, but he believes it's much worse for the kids to be in foster care than be with their mother (I disagree, considering the way she treats him).
At the moment, I have him wanting to leave the situation now. However, there's a crapload of stumbling blocks.
1. Because of the fact that these people are under the impression that his SSI check is the only chance of them getting their kids back, I can't expect them to just go along with this quietly and agreeably.
2. He's in the state of New York. For anyone worth their salt, this means that there's no way a non-resident can possess a handgun. This essentially means I'm lethally defenseless if the room mate decides to commit an act of violence in response (similar to the way an abusive husband reacts to a battered wife trying to leave him).
3. Assuming 1 is correct, they will not turn over his birth certificate. The only form of identification he has is his Social Security card, and an expired learners permit which expired more than two years ago. The DMV will not accept a learner's permit that was expired more than two years ago.
4. The town in Connecticut where he was born will not hand over a copy of a birth certificate without a valid photo ID. If he has an expired photo ID, they want a utility bill and his SSN number. He has no utility bills at his current residence.
5. Even if we were to be able to get the birth certificate, when we get back to New York, New York is not an instant issue ID state like Oregon and Florida is. They take 2 weeks to issue a new photo ID. Since he has no other residence in NY other than his family's residence, any ID's he may get would just end up in their mailbox.
6. The only thing we can get from the DMV instantly is one of those temporary non-photo ID's with his name and address. I have no guarantee that the TSA security agents at JFK will accept it, along with an expired ID and a valid SSN. I tried calling JFK, and the person on the phone wouldn't give me a straight answer.
Even worse, my only option is airline. No car on my part.
Does anyone have an idea, or suggestions? This is sorta similar to what happened in the 1970's with cult followings. Some groups required turning over all copies of your ID, your birth certificate, everything. As soon as your ID's expire, and you can't get another birth certificate without that ID, it's a catch 22 and seems unresolvable.
One thing I ask when you make suggestions: Please don't try to ask me how I know him, or ask why is he's in this situation, or how he got himself into it. That's besides the point.
My question, and my asking, is how you would get him out of this situation? He wants out, he just has no way of actually being able to take care of these things until someone actually picks him up and takes his stuff out.
DMV stuff: New York State
Birth Certificate Stuff: Connecticut
Airport: JFK
Target To Move: Oregon
Discuss.
I have a friend of mine who lives in upstate NY. He's 23 years of age. He lives with his mother and her room mate. As a result of social anxiety disorder (At least that's the reason given), he recieves an SSI check from the government direct deposited.
He himself never sees the check. Though the check itself is in his name, the account is a joint account between him, his mother, and her room mate.
Now, before any of you start harping on "Oh, this guy is a leech on our tax money", let me explain a little further on what exactly is going on:
When the friend was growing up, his "family" was under constant scrutiny by child welfare authorities with him and his siblings. The room mate's kids were also targeted. This created an atmosphere of almost constant paranoia and control during his childhood.
At 23, he's still there at the house. He not only pays rent to the room mate (taken out of the account without his consent), there's also strict rules that he has to follow. He has to clean up extensive messes left by others, and cannot go outside without their permission. If he does leave without it, when he gets back, he gets verbally abused by the room mate until he either tells them the truth, or tells them what they believe to be the truth.
It gets even worse. Apparently, the income that the room mate gets from the rent is supplementing the room mate's income. The room mate's kids were taken away from her over a year ago. CPS requires reporting of the income of the person before even considering giving the kids back to the parents. With how little money she makes, the extra 300 dollars helps bolster her argument that she can have the kids back because she's more financially stable.
Unfortunately, they remind my friend of this a lot. I've pretty much convinced him that he's not responsible for her laziness, but he believes it's much worse for the kids to be in foster care than be with their mother (I disagree, considering the way she treats him).
At the moment, I have him wanting to leave the situation now. However, there's a crapload of stumbling blocks.
1. Because of the fact that these people are under the impression that his SSI check is the only chance of them getting their kids back, I can't expect them to just go along with this quietly and agreeably.
2. He's in the state of New York. For anyone worth their salt, this means that there's no way a non-resident can possess a handgun. This essentially means I'm lethally defenseless if the room mate decides to commit an act of violence in response (similar to the way an abusive husband reacts to a battered wife trying to leave him).
3. Assuming 1 is correct, they will not turn over his birth certificate. The only form of identification he has is his Social Security card, and an expired learners permit which expired more than two years ago. The DMV will not accept a learner's permit that was expired more than two years ago.
4. The town in Connecticut where he was born will not hand over a copy of a birth certificate without a valid photo ID. If he has an expired photo ID, they want a utility bill and his SSN number. He has no utility bills at his current residence.
5. Even if we were to be able to get the birth certificate, when we get back to New York, New York is not an instant issue ID state like Oregon and Florida is. They take 2 weeks to issue a new photo ID. Since he has no other residence in NY other than his family's residence, any ID's he may get would just end up in their mailbox.
6. The only thing we can get from the DMV instantly is one of those temporary non-photo ID's with his name and address. I have no guarantee that the TSA security agents at JFK will accept it, along with an expired ID and a valid SSN. I tried calling JFK, and the person on the phone wouldn't give me a straight answer.
Even worse, my only option is airline. No car on my part.
Does anyone have an idea, or suggestions? This is sorta similar to what happened in the 1970's with cult followings. Some groups required turning over all copies of your ID, your birth certificate, everything. As soon as your ID's expire, and you can't get another birth certificate without that ID, it's a catch 22 and seems unresolvable.
One thing I ask when you make suggestions: Please don't try to ask me how I know him, or ask why is he's in this situation, or how he got himself into it. That's besides the point.
My question, and my asking, is how you would get him out of this situation? He wants out, he just has no way of actually being able to take care of these things until someone actually picks him up and takes his stuff out.
DMV stuff: New York State
Birth Certificate Stuff: Connecticut
Airport: JFK
Target To Move: Oregon
Discuss.
