National Firearms Registration??
- Thread starter WyldOne
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NFA weapons (short barreled shotguns, short barreled rifles, machine guns, AOWs, silencers and destructive devices, ie bombs) are not actually "registered", technically. The ATF simply retains a record of the tax having been paid on the weapon, the owner gets a nice piece of paper with a $200 postage stamp on it. 
Kharn
Kharn
Kharn...
"NFA weapons (short barreled shotguns, short barreled rifles, machine guns, AOWs, silencers and destructive devices, ie bombs) are not actually "registered", technically."
If the government has a list which they maintain which shows who owns what, then they are registered, technically or not.
"NFA weapons (short barreled shotguns, short barreled rifles, machine guns, AOWs, silencers and destructive devices, ie bombs) are not actually "registered", technically."
If the government has a list which they maintain which shows who owns what, then they are registered, technically or not.
for "ordinary" arms what i have been able to figure out is:
The manufacturer sends a list of serial numbers that are transfered to a wholesaler to the BATF
The Wholesaler provides a list of serial numbers that are transfered to dealers to the BATF
The first purchaser fills out a 4473 form
and the Brady call is made to approve the purchase of any gun
the 4473 is then inventoried at the retailers shop, until the shop goes out of business.
if gun XXX1372 is discovered in nefarious activity
the police can call in a search that will lead to the retailer
At the retailer, the paper forms are pawed through to discover the first purchasers info.
The manufacturer sends a list of serial numbers that are transfered to a wholesaler to the BATF
The Wholesaler provides a list of serial numbers that are transfered to dealers to the BATF
The first purchaser fills out a 4473 form
and the Brady call is made to approve the purchase of any gun
the 4473 is then inventoried at the retailers shop, until the shop goes out of business.
if gun XXX1372 is discovered in nefarious activity
the police can call in a search that will lead to the retailer
At the retailer, the paper forms are pawed through to discover the first purchasers info.
braindead0
New member
The funny thing is that Title 26 5841 says:
This tends to lead people to assume Firearms means what normal people think it means... until you get down to 5845 were it defines Firearm as:
The moral of the story is, everything the politicos do is designed to confuse the situation
This tends to lead people to assume Firearms means what normal people think it means... until you get down to 5845 were it defines Firearm as:
The moral of the story is, everything the politicos do is designed to confuse the situation
Baba Louie
New member
A question on the 4473 form. Didn't the ATF (in one of their constant revisions) add a clause that says something to the effect that it is now illegal to sell said firearm at a profit...blah, blah, blah. What would be the penalty/punishment if one were to commit such a nefarious act?
I haven't bought a firearm in quite some time (been collecting knives, ammo and more bills) and was curious if that clause is still to be found (was it ever?).
This is a small point of discussion among a couple of us at work and would appreciate any reliable response.
Adios
I haven't bought a firearm in quite some time (been collecting knives, ammo and more bills) and was curious if that clause is still to be found (was it ever?).
This is a small point of discussion among a couple of us at work and would appreciate any reliable response.
Adios
Keith_Yorktown
New member
Nothing on their (ATFs) website that would indicate a change such as that...
http://www.atf.treas.gov/forms/4473/index.htm
http://www.atf.treas.gov/forms/4473/index.htm