Title says it all, I have the opportunity to buy one or the other, the only difference price wise is $10. So let's hear it, pro's & con's for both? Also, I'm not worried about finding the "yugo" furniture for the pap like everyone seems to make a big deal of. So thanks in advance.
N pap vs WASR
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Mosin-Marauder
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Why would anyone want to replace that superb Teak wood stock? 
Mosin-Marauder
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I picked one up when I went to the LGS and it was rather uncomfortable on the cheek (first thing I noticed).
It seemed like a very well built rifle. The action was actually decently smooth for not being fired.
I've not seen a WASR 10/63 so I don't know about that one.
It seemed like a very well built rifle. The action was actually decently smooth for not being fired.
I've not seen a WASR 10/63 so I don't know about that one.
Just hold the npap properly with your nose up to the receiver and poof! Cheek slap is gone! but since that doesn't matter, the wasr has interchangeable furniture and gas block whereas the npap will need npap specific parts. If that's not a deal breaker, the npap def has the better finish though the newer wasrs are nicer looking than the older ones and since you're looking for accuracy the npaps non chrome barrel will do better than the chromed wasr barrel, just stay away from corrosive ammo.
but since that doesn't matter, the wasr has interchangeable furniture and gas block whereas the npap will need npap specific parts. If that's not a deal breaker, the npap def has the better finish though the newer wasrs are nicer looking than the older ones and since you're looking for accuracy the npaps non chrome barrel will do better than the chromed wasr barrel, just stay away from corrosive ammo.It's hard to beat a good WASR for a lowest common denominator AK. Which is comparable in quality to 50+ million AK-47s in the world!
AKs aren't known for 1MOA accuracy so I'd prefer getting the chrome lined barrel which Yugos don't have. I will admit I'm biased, I handpicked my WASR 10/63 at a gun show 8 years ago and it's never been any trouble. It's bone stock except I cut off the welded muzzle nut, screwed on a flash hider and rubbed Tung oil in the stock. And bought a better sling.
On the other hand I hear good things about the NPAP. Even though I have little first hand experience with them I doubt you'd go too wrong with one.
AKs aren't known for 1MOA accuracy so I'd prefer getting the chrome lined barrel which Yugos don't have. I will admit I'm biased, I handpicked my WASR 10/63 at a gun show 8 years ago and it's never been any trouble. It's bone stock except I cut off the welded muzzle nut, screwed on a flash hider and rubbed Tung oil in the stock. And bought a better sling.
On the other hand I hear good things about the NPAP. Even though I have little first hand experience with them I doubt you'd go too wrong with one.
Brotherbadger
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That's the exact reason why I would go with a Yugo. I prefer my rifles be as accurate as possible. If that means it takes an extra 3 or 4 minutes cleaning it, so be it. The odds of finding corrosive ammo nowadays is slim anyways, so the need for chrome lining isn't really there.
That rant aside, both are solid rifles. As long as you stay away from early WASR imports, you shouldn't have any problems.
I have a WASR, and at just over a thousand rounds, it's right, tight and steel-plate-at-100yd-accurate right from the box. Chrome CHF barrel, too!
I have read lots of good thinks about the N-PAPs also, though.
Just for fun, a video of WASR out-of-box accuracy:
This is not me, BTW...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSuAPjw2Jgw
I have read lots of good thinks about the N-PAPs also, though.
Just for fun, a video of WASR out-of-box accuracy:
This is not me, BTW...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSuAPjw2Jgw
As ridiculous as this sounds the WASR is slightly more desirable than NPAP...maybe it's the CL barrel. Rob Ski from akoul managed to break an NPAP during one of his crazy torture tests, granted several other AKs have failed but NPAP failed a little sooner
If you want to get an arsenal slr 107 or 104ur now it's a good time as arsenals dried up (again)
If you want to get an arsenal slr 107 or 104ur now it's a good time as arsenals dried up (again)
My reasoning was if you have typical 4-5MOA AKs, chrome lining won't have much impact on accuracy compared to all the other accuracy robbing things going on. Now if you have rifles around 1MOA then you might see a difference. Look at all those sewer pipe barrels in old Yugo SKSes - then chrome lining looks real desirable!
For a while, I would have chosen the N-PAP over the WASR, but lately a good many reports have been showing up on the internet of egging of the fire control group holes on the N-PAP receiver and mushrooming of the BCG tail due to soft steel.
It may be worth doing some research on.
It may be worth doing some research on.
Brotherbadger
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The difference between a chrome lined barrel and the other things that impede accuracy is that you can control what type of barrel you have. You can eliminate that impact all together.
If you plan on shooting corrosive ammo and never cleaning it? Definitely. The days of finding/shooting cheap corrosive ammo are gone. This eliminates the main benefit of a chrome lined barrel. For me, the pros no longer out weigh the cons.