Murders with Firearms...USA #8!

A

allenomics

New member
Murders by firearms (per capita) by country...

Rank - Countries - Amount

#1 South Africa: 0.719782 per 1,000 people
#2 Colombia: 0.509801 per 1,000 people
#3 Thailand: 0.312093 per 1,000 people
#4 Zimbabwe: 0.0491736 per 1,000 people
#5 Mexico: 0.0337938 per 1,000 people
#6 Belarus: 0.0321359 per 1,000 people
#7 Costa Rica: 0.0313745 per 1,000 people
#8 United States: 0.0279271 per 1,000 people
#9 Uruguay: 0.0245902 per 1,000 people
#10 Lithuania: 0.0230748 per 1,000 people
#11 Slovakia: 0.021543 per 1,000 people
#12 Czech Republic: 0.0207988 per 1,000 people
#13 Estonia: 0.0157539 per 1,000 people
#14 Latvia: 0.0131004 per 1,000 people
#15 Macedonia: 0.0127139 per 1,000 people
#16 Bulgaria: 0.00845638 per 1,000 people
#17 Portugal: 0.00795003 per 1,000 people
#18 Slovenia: 0.00596718 per 1,000 people
#19 Switzerland: 0.00534117 per 1,000 people
#20 Canada: 0.00502972 per 1,000 people
#21 Germany: 0.00465844 per 1,000 people
#22 Moldova: 0.00448934 per 1,000 people
#23 Hungary: 0.00439692 per 1,000 people
#24 Poland: 0.0043052 per 1,000 people
#25 Ukraine: 0.00368109 per 1,000 people
#26 Ireland: 0.00298805 per 1,000 people
#27 Australia: 0.00293678 per 1,000 people
#28 Denmark: 0.00257732 per 1,000 people
#29 Spain: 0.0024045 per 1,000 people
#30 Azerbaijan: 0.00227503 per 1,000 people
#31 New Zealand: 0.00173482 per 1,000 people
#32 United Kingdom: 0.00102579 per 1,000 people

Weighted average: 0.1 per 1,000 people

DEFINITION: Total recorded intentional homicides committed with a firearm. Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence. Per capita figures expressed per 1,000 population.

SOURCE: Seventh United Nations Survey of Crime Trends and Operations of Criminal Justice Systems.
 
Z

zoomie

New member
Look at "violent crime" and the numbers would be different. UK and NZ sure wouldn't be last!! (Especially look at home invasions in NZ.) If criminals can't get guns, they use whatever they can. Knives, pipes, fists, etc, all make good tools to subvert their prey. One guy that I work with here was "burgaled" [sic] about twice each year he lived there. He'd get robbed once, they'd wait until insurance replaced everything, then they'd hit him again.

http://www.police.govt.nz/service/statistics/2006/calendar/variance-in-crime-rates-05-06.pdf

NZ stats from their own gov't (out of only 4 million people, about the same as Kentucky) for ONLY HALF OF ONE YEAR (July - Dec 2006):
2,000+ "grievous assaults"
6,000+ "intimidation and threats"
6,000+ "minor assaults"
8,500+ "serious assaults"
1,000+ sexual attacks
31,000+ burglaries
60,000+ thefts

By comparison, in ALL OF 2006, here are Kentucky's stats:
27,000 robberies
6,000 aggravated assaults
1,200 forcible rapes

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/data/table_05.html

So Kentucky had roughly the same crime in an entire year that NZ had in 6 months. Hmm.
 
Last edited:
C

cxg231

New member
Well, if you take out the backwards 2nd and 3rd world countries, that makes us #1!!!

That's sad. Very sad. :(
 
D

Double Naught Spy

New member
What about Iraq? No stats or being murdered because of religion or politics doesn't count as crime?
Click to expand...

In order to be on the list, then the country in question would have to have gathered the data and then returned it for comparative tabulation. As of the 8th UN Survey, Iraq was still under Saddam Hussein. Do you really think he commanded that such information be surveyed and then reported to the UN? When it was due to be turned in, Iraq was in the middle of yet another war. Do you think they managed to complete the task? Nope.
 
C

carguychris

New member
Not surprised SA is Number 1.
Click to expand...
They have over 25 times our rate! Yikes! :eek:
What about Iraq? No stats or being murdered because of religion or politics doesn't count as crime?
Click to expand...
Two obvious things:

1) I'm sure the study excludes active war zones. The list is a survey of crime, not war.

2) The list is far from all-inclusive. There's an obvious shortage of African, Arabian, Central Asian, and SE Asian countries on it. China, Russia, and India are conspicuous in their absence. I'm guessing that some of these countries don't have a functioning government agency that reliably collects crime statistics (I'm guessing most of Africa and Central Asia), and others have agencies that blatantly manipulate the statistics for propaganda purposes (I'm going to wager that Russia and China fall into this second category). :rolleyes:
 
M

Musketeer

New member
For Switzerland I would wager that suicides are considered homicides in the numbers.

It wouldn't matter if we were first. Freedom goes both ways and I would have it no other way.

Look at "Violent Crime" and I wager you will see the UK rise rapidly in the ranks. Congrats, odds are low of being shot in the UK but of being robbed, beaten and stabbed you are looking at a whole nother game.
 
S

sksmatt

New member
If criminals can't get guns, they use whatever they can. Knives, pipes, fists, etc, all make good tools to subvert their prey.
Click to expand...

That right there explains it!!! In the times we live in, Murder is going to happen period. Firearms are not the perpetrator....your fellow man is :(
 
T

Tom2

New member
Suprised NZ is just above UK or at the bottom of the list, as I think NZ is very different than UK for gun ownership. Lot of fully automatic weapons owned by civilians there, for instance. So you would think they would be more up the list at least to Switzerlands level but it shows you that you cannot predict the results based on hardware available, versus how people behave.
 
J

JustDreadful

New member
Irrelevant. Total murders would be a useful subject. Weapons used is trivia. Archie Bunker, that Philosopher King, had something useful to say on the subject.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top