ammo.crafter
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Planning a Canadian Moose hunt this years and was wondering what calibre would work. I hunt deer and hog and have been using my 444 exclusively.
I would appreciate suggestions.
I would appreciate suggestions.
Moose
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Most anything will kill a moose
Your 444 is just fine for moose.
As far as minimum caliber I wouldn't go any lighter than a 25 caliber rifle, pushing heavy for caliber bullets. Any of the common big game calibers will do the trick.
Right now if I had to pull a rifle from my collection it would probably be the '06, and a second choice would be an 8x57.
Jimro
Your 444 is just fine for moose.
As far as minimum caliber I wouldn't go any lighter than a 25 caliber rifle, pushing heavy for caliber bullets. Any of the common big game calibers will do the trick.
Right now if I had to pull a rifle from my collection it would probably be the '06, and a second choice would be an 8x57.
Jimro
ammo.crafter, I don't have any experience with the .444, but I think it would be fine with one of the stouter bullets (Partition HD or A-Frame) or a cast bullet.
That said, many moose have been shot with a 30-30 at close range. I have a 336 Marlin that shot four (not by my hand, but my dads).
However, I would not use anything less than .270 cal (personally nothing less than .30 cal). A 30-06, 308 etc. would be fine at any range. You could use a 300 WM, 338 WM, etc., but you don't need it. In moose habitat, you will be hard pressed finding a shot over 100 yards. The only long shot would be a shot over a marsh or fenn (don't shot it in the marsh, not fun!).
The trick I think is to have a rifle that is handy in the bush and that you can get a shot off quickly. Your .444 should fit the bill nicely. I moose hunted once with my 300 WM A-Bolt with a 26" barrel and it snagged on everything.
That said, many moose have been shot with a 30-30 at close range. I have a 336 Marlin that shot four (not by my hand, but my dads).
However, I would not use anything less than .270 cal (personally nothing less than .30 cal). A 30-06, 308 etc. would be fine at any range. You could use a 300 WM, 338 WM, etc., but you don't need it. In moose habitat, you will be hard pressed finding a shot over 100 yards. The only long shot would be a shot over a marsh or fenn (don't shot it in the marsh, not fun!).
The trick I think is to have a rifle that is handy in the bush and that you can get a shot off quickly. Your .444 should fit the bill nicely. I moose hunted once with my 300 WM A-Bolt with a 26" barrel and it snagged on everything.
Your .444 is the best possible rifle for moose because it's the rifle you're most comfortable with.
You might want to talk with your host for the hunt about what their opinion is but I doubt they'll say anything different.
That is unless you just want an excuse to buy a new rifle. Then take it from me nothing takes moose better than that shiny new what's it in the gun shop you've been drooling over for the last few months.
You might want to talk with your host for the hunt about what their opinion is but I doubt they'll say anything different.
That is unless you just want an excuse to buy a new rifle. Then take it from me nothing takes moose better than that shiny new what's it in the gun shop you've been drooling over for the last few months.
ammo.crafter
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Thanks, guys. Most likely I'll reload the 444 with 310 gr hard cast lead...that's my black bear load.
Dirty_Harry
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Sounds like an excuse for another rifle!
No your .444 is perfect, especially since you know how to shoot with it.
No your .444 is perfect, especially since you know how to shoot with it.
ammo.crafter
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Canada was the plan
crowbeaner
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That 444 with your bear load is just the ticket; big hole, good penetration, and big thump. Just don't try to be Billy Dixon and have fun. The canucks will love your rifle. They like simple and effective things,eh?
Jack O'Conner
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I hunted moose only once so I'm no expert. But two shots from my .308 carbine got the job done. I hunted with plain Remington core-lockt ammo.
My Cree guide is a genuine expert. He has knocked over dozens and dozens of moose & caribou. His hunting rifle may shock a few folks. This man hunts with an antique Remington autoloader in 35 caliber. Yes, this is considered a deer rifle by most hunters. But he had good luck shooting big Canadian animals with those round-nosed 200 grain soft tip bullets.
I read that Babe Ruth hunted in Canada & Maine with the same same rifle and cartridge many decades ago. At one time, the 35 Remington was considered a fine choice for elk as well.
I'm sure your 444 is up to the task of clobbering a big moose.
Good hunting to you.
Jack
My Cree guide is a genuine expert. He has knocked over dozens and dozens of moose & caribou. His hunting rifle may shock a few folks. This man hunts with an antique Remington autoloader in 35 caliber. Yes, this is considered a deer rifle by most hunters. But he had good luck shooting big Canadian animals with those round-nosed 200 grain soft tip bullets.
I read that Babe Ruth hunted in Canada & Maine with the same same rifle and cartridge many decades ago. At one time, the 35 Remington was considered a fine choice for elk as well.
I'm sure your 444 is up to the task of clobbering a big moose.
Good hunting to you.
Jack
StuMan - where are you shooting swamp donkeys at 600 yards!
StuMan does make a point. It will all depend on where you are moose hunting. If there is any chance that there may be shots that are beyond the effective range of your 444, bring another rifle along for those days.
That said, every moose I have ever seen hunting has been well within the effective range of the 444. The last moose hunt I was on, every single moose we saw was within 50 yards. When I put the scope of my 300 WM on the cows we jumped in the willows (bull only season), they were so close their head and necks filled the field of view on 3x! Not to mention the 26" barrel on my A-Bolt snagged on anything.
Moose hunting can be tough - especially in winter. On mine, I would have gladly taken a quick handling .444, 45-70 in Marlin or a .308 or .358 BLR with a 1.5, 2 or 3x fixed scope.
StuMan does make a point. It will all depend on where you are moose hunting. If there is any chance that there may be shots that are beyond the effective range of your 444, bring another rifle along for those days.
That said, every moose I have ever seen hunting has been well within the effective range of the 444. The last moose hunt I was on, every single moose we saw was within 50 yards. When I put the scope of my 300 WM on the cows we jumped in the willows (bull only season), they were so close their head and necks filled the field of view on 3x! Not to mention the 26" barrel on my A-Bolt snagged on anything.
Moose hunting can be tough - especially in winter. On mine, I would have gladly taken a quick handling .444, 45-70 in Marlin or a .308 or .358 BLR with a 1.5, 2 or 3x fixed scope.
Moose Calibers
I will agree that a 444 is a great caliber and well suited for Moose. My in-laws swear by th 30-06. They kill at least 3-4 moose per year. 30-06 has the punch to go through the bush and stay on track. A moose is a very large solid animal, I would not recommend anything less than 30 cal.
I will agree that a 444 is a great caliber and well suited for Moose. My in-laws swear by th 30-06. They kill at least 3-4 moose per year. 30-06 has the punch to go through the bush and stay on track. A moose is a very large solid animal, I would not recommend anything less than 30 cal.
Our big moose are regularly killed with one shot out of a bubba'd .303. 180 grain bullets will do nicely.
Your .444 will do as well, but depending on where up here, you're going, it may not be the best. Longer shots than a .444 is good for are possible. It's really a 200 yard maximum cartridge. That'd do in most places up here though.
With Remington 240 grain factory ammo and zeroed at 100, it drops 9.7" at 200, 20.8" at 250. The energy drops like a rock past 200 as well.
A 280 grain bullet has enough energy out to 300(about 1165 ft-lbs), but drops 17.7" at that distance.
You'll need to look at this too.
http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/factsheets/visitin_e.asp
Your .444 will do as well, but depending on where up here, you're going, it may not be the best. Longer shots than a .444 is good for are possible. It's really a 200 yard maximum cartridge. That'd do in most places up here though.
With Remington 240 grain factory ammo and zeroed at 100, it drops 9.7" at 200, 20.8" at 250. The energy drops like a rock past 200 as well.
A 280 grain bullet has enough energy out to 300(about 1165 ft-lbs), but drops 17.7" at that distance.
You'll need to look at this too.
http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/factsheets/visitin_e.asp
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