azsixshooter
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I tried to work up to a maximum load today from the Nosler book. A couple of days ago I reloaded these 20 once-fired factory Federal cases all with the starting load of 46.5 grains of AA3100 behind Nosler 120 grain ballistic tips in my CZ 550 American in 6.5x55 Swedish. All went well so I started working up by loading 3 rounds of 47 grains, 3 rounds of 47.5 grains, etc .5 grains at a time up to 49.5 grains. Then I loaded one round of 50 grains and 1 round of 50.5 grains, which was the maximum published.
The first set of three all left very faint impressions of the ejector slot on the case head. I knew that wasn't a good sign, but I carefully examined each case and primer and didn't see any other signs of excessive pressure and the bolt had opened smoothly. I could just barely see it, it didn't look nearly as bad as any of the examples I had seen in the reloading books I have. I decided to try one of the 47.5 grain rounds and told myself if I noticed that impression more pronounced or any other signs showing up I'd stop and go home and pull all the bullets.
I fired the next three and the little impression didn't show up at all. So I continued on inspecting each round as I went along for any problems. They were all great and I shot a couple of really good sub-MOA groups so I was pretty happy. I got up to the 50 grain hot load and fired that at a water bottle I had set out at around 330 yards or so.
The next one I decided to fire into a bunch of water bottles to try and recover the slug to check weight retention and expansion and what not. That one kicked like a mule (for the 6.5x55SE) and when I opened the bolt (it opened smoothly) I noticed there was gas leak all over the case head and no primer. I looked inside the action and there was the primer sitting in there. I checked out the rest of the case and didn't see anything that looked bad, no cracks or splits or anything. Then I noticed that the case head stamp was imprinted on the powder build up on the bolt face. I didn't think that was good, it reminded me of the Monroe Effect in the development of shaped high explosives. I went back and looked at the last round and didn't notice anything really unusual that would indicate I was approaching such an overpowered round. Until I got home and looked at it again. I set the second from last one on the table and noticed a little wobble. Then I realized that the primer was just barely starting to flow into the firing pin hole and I guess I should have noticed that and not gone on to fire the little barn burner round.
So basically, I'm just wondering where I stand now? Is something like this common enough and not anything to really worry about? Or should I have my rifle looked at by a gunsmith, maybe have the headspace checked or something? I've pretty much got all of the imprint cleaned off of the bolt face so it isn't really in the steel, it just kind of looked that way at first. I am planning on just shooting again with some of the less-powerful rounds that showed the best accuracy today and taking it in if I notice any major degradation in accuracy or anything. I'm cleaning it really good tonight, it's got a ton of copper fouling all the way to the crown and it's a real pain to get it all out. I picked up some copper-klenz and a fat ny-tough brush to really scrub it good.
I was just wondering if there's anything else I need to do or if this is a more serious incident than what it seems to me right now. I am wondering also about ever trying that max load again? In the Nosler book they used Norma cases which I would assume to be new (maybe incorrectly) and I used twice fired Federal cases. I was thinking that if I tried it again with stronger, fresh cases (like Norma or Lapua) maybe the primer would stay in the pocket and the load might actually be safe in my rifle. I'm not all that gung-ho to go shooting this max load again for any reason, but I'm more interested in the process and how those of you who have been doing this for a while would handle something like this. When I loaded the max I was very careful to zero my scale, check and double check the charge when I weighed it and then I re-checked the zero twice after I poured the charge into the case. So I think it's pretty safe to say that I didn't overcharge it. Oh, also it is a compressed load and I checked the COL right after seating the bullet and a few hours later at the range and it hadn't expanded at all.
Thanks for your help and advice and here is a pic of the failed case, loose primer, recovered slug and intact slug for comparison. BTW, I weighed the recovered portion at 56 grains. I did fire it into 5 1-gallon jugs about 15 feet from the muzzle though! Not as impressive as a 12 gauge slug, but it did a pretty fair job of shredding/detonating the first two jugs and coming to rest in the 4th one.
The first set of three all left very faint impressions of the ejector slot on the case head. I knew that wasn't a good sign, but I carefully examined each case and primer and didn't see any other signs of excessive pressure and the bolt had opened smoothly. I could just barely see it, it didn't look nearly as bad as any of the examples I had seen in the reloading books I have. I decided to try one of the 47.5 grain rounds and told myself if I noticed that impression more pronounced or any other signs showing up I'd stop and go home and pull all the bullets.
I fired the next three and the little impression didn't show up at all. So I continued on inspecting each round as I went along for any problems. They were all great and I shot a couple of really good sub-MOA groups so I was pretty happy. I got up to the 50 grain hot load and fired that at a water bottle I had set out at around 330 yards or so.
The next one I decided to fire into a bunch of water bottles to try and recover the slug to check weight retention and expansion and what not. That one kicked like a mule (for the 6.5x55SE) and when I opened the bolt (it opened smoothly) I noticed there was gas leak all over the case head and no primer. I looked inside the action and there was the primer sitting in there. I checked out the rest of the case and didn't see anything that looked bad, no cracks or splits or anything. Then I noticed that the case head stamp was imprinted on the powder build up on the bolt face. I didn't think that was good, it reminded me of the Monroe Effect in the development of shaped high explosives. I went back and looked at the last round and didn't notice anything really unusual that would indicate I was approaching such an overpowered round. Until I got home and looked at it again. I set the second from last one on the table and noticed a little wobble. Then I realized that the primer was just barely starting to flow into the firing pin hole and I guess I should have noticed that and not gone on to fire the little barn burner round.
So basically, I'm just wondering where I stand now? Is something like this common enough and not anything to really worry about? Or should I have my rifle looked at by a gunsmith, maybe have the headspace checked or something? I've pretty much got all of the imprint cleaned off of the bolt face so it isn't really in the steel, it just kind of looked that way at first. I am planning on just shooting again with some of the less-powerful rounds that showed the best accuracy today and taking it in if I notice any major degradation in accuracy or anything. I'm cleaning it really good tonight, it's got a ton of copper fouling all the way to the crown and it's a real pain to get it all out. I picked up some copper-klenz and a fat ny-tough brush to really scrub it good.
I was just wondering if there's anything else I need to do or if this is a more serious incident than what it seems to me right now. I am wondering also about ever trying that max load again? In the Nosler book they used Norma cases which I would assume to be new (maybe incorrectly) and I used twice fired Federal cases. I was thinking that if I tried it again with stronger, fresh cases (like Norma or Lapua) maybe the primer would stay in the pocket and the load might actually be safe in my rifle. I'm not all that gung-ho to go shooting this max load again for any reason, but I'm more interested in the process and how those of you who have been doing this for a while would handle something like this. When I loaded the max I was very careful to zero my scale, check and double check the charge when I weighed it and then I re-checked the zero twice after I poured the charge into the case. So I think it's pretty safe to say that I didn't overcharge it. Oh, also it is a compressed load and I checked the COL right after seating the bullet and a few hours later at the range and it hadn't expanded at all.
Thanks for your help and advice and here is a pic of the failed case, loose primer, recovered slug and intact slug for comparison. BTW, I weighed the recovered portion at 56 grains. I did fire it into 5 1-gallon jugs about 15 feet from the muzzle though! Not as impressive as a 12 gauge slug, but it did a pretty fair job of shredding/detonating the first two jugs and coming to rest in the 4th one.