as he goes along, Any here put any stock in his so called "street-data"? pretty funny to extropolate 92% stopper, from 12 shootings, as I have read SAnow do, concerning the 165 gr .40 (i THINK it was) Hell, the next 3-4 straight could easily ALL be failures to stop. That would bring the average down to 75-80 %, now wouldnt it? Until you have at least 25 shootings (with CHEST hits,, and without spine hits) you just simply lack enough raw data to make any predictions, beyond, say + or - 10%, because a VERY few more cases will move the % that much. I prefer to test loads myself, on flesh and blood. If they exit 12" of meat, I dont want em. shot lenghwise, chuck, coon, etc offers this much meat. Out of many scores of animals shot, I have only had one jhp fail to exit. That was an 85 gr 380 Silvertip, at 1650 fps in a 9mm reload. It hit a feral dog on the shoulder. Dropped him, but no exit wound. He was dead before I could approach, from 50 or so feet away.