M&P reliability?
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rugerfreak
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I have a fullsize MP9---it has no mag safety or internal lock.
ShootingNut
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M&p 40
Little more bang for the buck, vs. the 9mm. Like mine very much, has never puked on any ammo including lead reloads so far. Performs and deals with recoil very well.
Little more bang for the buck, vs. the 9mm. Like mine very much, has never puked on any ammo including lead reloads so far. Performs and deals with recoil very well.
Boone Hillbilly
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I have had mine for about 6 months as well and love it. My local shop had it for about480 so I had to snatch it up.. Looking for the 45 to be released.. Also thinking about picking up thr M&P Ar-15
Sturmgewehre
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How do you cause a FTF? Were you blocking the travel of the slide with your body or a barricade? I don't consider "limp wristing" to be a valid excuse. I can take my Beretta M9 and hold it with my thumb and middle finger while pulling the trigger with my index finger and it will work 100% of the time. That's how it should be... if a gun FTF because you didn't have a solid grip on it, there's something wrong with the gun.
So, how do you feel you caused the FTF?
I have the full size 9mm over 500 rounds and counting. NO PROBLEMS. Nice shooting gun for $400.
Check out www.budsgunshop.com most other stores have them priced over $500.
Check out www.budsgunshop.com most other stores have them priced over $500.
Sturmgewehre
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Ahh, so he did.
So, how do you cause a FTE?
fattsgalore
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Sturm I'm with you on the subject of limp wristing. I remember when i rented a ParaOrdance P12 and a 9mm version. The people said we were limp wristing thats reason why it was FTF. When 4 indivuals have the same problem it aint my wrist. My Glock has been shoot upside down; sideways; one handed; two handed; and so on. Shot by male/female; experienced/novice. Even though I noticed when I'm trying to unchamber a round if I push my gripping hand forward while holding the slide the round will fall through the open mag well instead of flipping in the air.
At the risk of jumping into a holy-war, isn't a polymer gun is more susceptible to limp-wristing, in general, than a metal framed gun, due to the lower mass and to a lesser degree, frame flex?
Having said that, my wife has managed to get a few stovepipes with my G19 (fixed by a better grip), but never on her M&P9c.
Edit to add: Yes, I think it's a grossly overused excuse for what are often really mechanical issues.
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As to the safety question, there's an optional lock (internal disconnect?), and also an optional mag safety.
My wife's has the mag safety, but not the lock. With the mag safety, you can pull the trigger without the magazine inserted, but it does not engage the trigger bar so the gun will not fire. You can get them with or without that 'feature'. There's apparently a way to disable this safety, which I'm pretty sure is on S&W's website. I can see why someone might not want this safety, but it doesn't seem to be a big deal, personally.
Having said that, my wife has managed to get a few stovepipes with my G19 (fixed by a better grip), but never on her M&P9c.
Edit to add: Yes, I think it's a grossly overused excuse for what are often really mechanical issues.
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As to the safety question, there's an optional lock (internal disconnect?), and also an optional mag safety.
My wife's has the mag safety, but not the lock. With the mag safety, you can pull the trigger without the magazine inserted, but it does not engage the trigger bar so the gun will not fire. You can get them with or without that 'feature'. There's apparently a way to disable this safety, which I'm pretty sure is on S&W's website. I can see why someone might not want this safety, but it doesn't seem to be a big deal, personally.
I picked up an M&P 40 last month and have only gotten to shoot it once, so I won't speak prematurely on its reliability.
However, I love this gun! I put 100 rounds down range, and every one was a pleasure. It manages the 40 recoil very well, and is very accurate. The grip is awesome, along with the fit and finish.
I really like the Melonite on stainless treatment, along with the frame texture. It just looks and feels like a well made gun.
However, I love this gun! I put 100 rounds down range, and every one was a pleasure. It manages the 40 recoil very well, and is very accurate. The grip is awesome, along with the fit and finish.
I really like the Melonite on stainless treatment, along with the frame texture. It just looks and feels like a well made gun.
Sturmgewehre
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The short answer is no.
The mass that's important is the mass of the slide, the frame doesn't reciprocate.
As for the flex, I'm not sure why you would think a few thousands of an inch in flexing would cause a failure to feed or extract. Anyway, most of the flex occurs when the slide abruptly stops its rearward motion by impacting the frame. Having flex here is actually desirable in that it reduces felt recoil and it spares the frame any undue stress.
If a gun fails to cycle and feed properly, regardless of how you hold it, there is something mechanically wrong with the firearm (poor design or perhaps a manufacturing flaw).