On another thread, Gusgus posted <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Ummm, excuse me folks, but did you ever notice that almost every anti tells you that they lost a brother, sister, aunt, uncle, child, etc. etc. to a gun? Care to wager that many (not all, but many) are bald faced liars?
I thought I remember reading a letter from the MMM, where they actually told their members, that when writing a letter to a newspaper, or when debating a Gun Rights Activist, to claim that they had lost a loved one to gun violence, as a way to validate their viewpoint. As soon as they claim this, we shut up, and they win.
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Just something to think about the next time an Anti tells you this line.[/quote]
And then there is the other kind of story. About a month ago, now, my cousin killed himself with his dad's .22. Mouse gun? I guess shot placement ruled.
He was quite depressed as he was realizing that his brain injury several years before had left permanent damage. He left a note stating that it wasn't anyone's fault; he had simply lost the will to live.
TLF is a great place to express our frustration, discuss strategy, etc, but I'd just like to remind folks that when holding real-life discussions, please remember some sensitivity. Ask questions before making assumptions and sounding off.
My opinions on 2nd Ammendment issues have not changed in this past month; I'm still pro-RKBA. We all do wish my uncle had removed the gun instead of just hiding the bullets. But my cousin was quite determined, could drive, and as an adult could buy whatever he wanted.
Even Kalifornia's infamous gun laws didn't affect this situation.
--Denise
PS: For any Christians who may be interested, most of that side of my family are not Christians, and we're concerned about my aunt's odd ways of grieving. Also, she's the one who discovered my cousin dead on his bed and she's not a strong person. I have a small family and, though I was not particularly close to this cousin, this whole situation feels close-to-home. Prayers much appreciated, of course.
I thought I remember reading a letter from the MMM, where they actually told their members, that when writing a letter to a newspaper, or when debating a Gun Rights Activist, to claim that they had lost a loved one to gun violence, as a way to validate their viewpoint. As soon as they claim this, we shut up, and they win.
. . .
Just something to think about the next time an Anti tells you this line.[/quote]
And then there is the other kind of story. About a month ago, now, my cousin killed himself with his dad's .22. Mouse gun? I guess shot placement ruled.
He was quite depressed as he was realizing that his brain injury several years before had left permanent damage. He left a note stating that it wasn't anyone's fault; he had simply lost the will to live. TLF is a great place to express our frustration, discuss strategy, etc, but I'd just like to remind folks that when holding real-life discussions, please remember some sensitivity. Ask questions before making assumptions and sounding off.
My opinions on 2nd Ammendment issues have not changed in this past month; I'm still pro-RKBA. We all do wish my uncle had removed the gun instead of just hiding the bullets. But my cousin was quite determined, could drive, and as an adult could buy whatever he wanted.
Even Kalifornia's infamous gun laws didn't affect this situation.
--Denise
PS: For any Christians who may be interested, most of that side of my family are not Christians, and we're concerned about my aunt's odd ways of grieving. Also, she's the one who discovered my cousin dead on his bed and she's not a strong person. I have a small family and, though I was not particularly close to this cousin, this whole situation feels close-to-home. Prayers much appreciated, of course.