sigshepardo
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Is it legal to manufacture your own 1911 frame and slide in your own shop? Then assembling the rest of the pistol with U.S. made parts?
Legality of manufacturing your own 1911
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As far as federal law is concerned, nothing at all if you are making it for your own use. BATFE does recommend that you put on some kind of serial number, like your initials and the number 1, but there is no law requiring that.
If you make the gun with the intent to sell/transfer it, or are going into the business of making guns, then you need a manufacturer's license.
Jim
If you make the gun with the intent to sell/transfer it, or are going into the business of making guns, then you need a manufacturer's license.
Jim
Rifleman1776
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I have a friend that has made two 1911s. He made every part. One has standard sights, the other target sights. They are beautiful, I would like to have them.
ScottRiqui
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I don't believe that's the case. While a nonlicensee cannot manufacture firearms expressly for sale, The ATF makes allowances for the later transfer of a firearm built by a nonlicensee.
This thread on another site has the text of a letter to the ATF on the topic, as well as the ATF's response.
Aguila Blanca
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This is incorrect. The only regulated part of a 1911 is the receiver, and there is a small market out there for "80%" receivers. As long as you perform the final 20 percent of the work, you can purchase a partially-completed 1911 receiver and finish it off yourself. Exactly the same as 80% AR lower receivers. All other parts for the 1911 can be bought in finished form, or you can make them yourself if you're masochistic.
No serial number is required but, as noted above, the BATFE "recommends" that you put one on. And a home-built 1911 CAN enter the "stream of commerce." You can't make it with the intent of selling it, but if you make it this year and five years from now find that you're not using it and don't have any further interest in it -- you can sell it. And you can give it away or bequeath it to someone in your will.
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So long as its for oneself and does not enter into the stream of commerce, yes, it is legal to build one from scratch.
This is incorrect. The only regulated part of a 1911 is the receiver, and there is a small market out there for "80%" receivers. As long as you perform the final 20 percent of the work, you can purchase a partially-completed 1911 receiver and finish it off yourself. Exactly the same as 80% AR lower receivers. All other parts for the 1911 can be bought in finished form, or you can make them yourself if you're masochistic.
No serial number is required but, as noted above, the BATFE "recommends" that you put one on. And a home-built 1911 CAN enter the "stream of commerce." You can't make it with the intent of selling it, but if you make it this year and five years from now find that you're not using it and don't have any further interest in it -- you can sell it. And you can give it away or bequeath it to someone in your will.
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No that is correct
So long as its for oneself and does not enter into the stream of commerce, yes, it is legal to build one from scratch.
This is incorrect. The only regulated part of a 1911 is the receiver, and there is a small market out there for "80%" receivers. As long as you perform the final 20 percent of the work, you can purchase a partially-completed 1911 receiver and finish it off yourself. Exactly the same as 80% AR lower receivers. All other parts for the 1911 can be bought in finished form, or you can make them yourself if you're masochistic.
No serial number is required but, as noted above, the BATFE "recommends" that you put one on. And a home-built 1911 CAN enter the "stream of commerce." You can't make it with the intent of selling it, but if you make it this year and five years from now find that you're not using it and don't have any further interest in it -- you can sell it. And you can give it away or bequeath it to someone in your will.
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No that is correct
speedrrracer
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Yes, making your own is completely legal. As has been said, if you get into the commercial side, then a ton of laws come into play, but if you just want to make one for yourself, it's no problem.
Here's a company selling the 80% receivers you can finish:
http://aresarmor.com/store/Item/rudius1911
Here's a company selling the 80% receivers you can finish:
http://aresarmor.com/store/Item/rudius1911
Hunter Customs
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Smart move, I recall the days of doing sight cuts with files along with numerous other things, that was before I had a mill.
I'll take the mill over files anyday.
Best Regards
Bob Hunter
www.huntercustoms.com
RedBowTies88
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Be careful and check with local laws before you proceed.
Federally it is legal to do so but I know in NJ it is 100% illegal, and I'm willing to wager we're not the only draconian state with such laws.
Federally it is legal to do so but I know in NJ it is 100% illegal, and I'm willing to wager we're not the only draconian state with such laws.
RedBowTies88
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http://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/njac-title13-ch54.pdf
It's subsection 4 that has the manufacturing laws.
I know when you read it that it sounds as though it would only apply to corperations and people looking to wholesale. But in reality it applies to all citizens of the state.
I'm currenty looking for some cases.. I know i've seen 1 or 2 before where private citizens were brought up on charges for manufacturing guns for personal use I just need to locate them.
It's subsection 4 that has the manufacturing laws.
I know when you read it that it sounds as though it would only apply to corperations and people looking to wholesale. But in reality it applies to all citizens of the state.
I'm currenty looking for some cases.. I know i've seen 1 or 2 before where private citizens were brought up on charges for manufacturing guns for personal use I just need to locate them.
RedBowTies88
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No problem Tom,
Like I said I would be quite suprised if NJ was the only state where this scenario exists.... but then again NJ is known for that sort of thing when it somes to gun laws.
Like I said I would be quite suprised if NJ was the only state where this scenario exists.... but then again NJ is known for that sort of thing when it somes to gun laws.