Is my .45 ACP "Carry" load safe?

[Mylhouse]

The load I'm referring to is on Alex Johnson's post, "How many use handloads for self defense?" or something like that. I'd like to know what you all think before I hurt myself. Thanks.

 

[Desert Dog]

I would use a slower powder...

I shoot .45 Super, and I have loads that are as stiff as yours with a fast burning powder. (7.0 gr. W231)

I would go to a slower burning power if I were you, so the pressure peak is not quite so abrupt.

I recommend:

AA#5
AA#7
Blue Dot
Unique (dirty stuff)
Power Pistol

be careful...

 

[Keith J]

Old CIP data

The older VV data was according to CIP and offered a 200 gr JHP at 1200+ ft/sec with N-350. I don't have the particulars but I would recommend a serious recoil spring and shock buffers.

Its a mighty accurate load when loaded with moderation (1100). I recommend the Hornady XTP's and using a .45 super case or equivalent.

The flash is incredible. The pressures are not.

kj

 

[Mylhouse]

Thanks

Dog,

I was under the impression that Universal was in the same basic burn rate class as Unique and AA5. I chose it because it seems to give top-end performance in .40 and .45, without excessive pressures (especially in .40). But I could be wrong.

 

[Johnny Guest]

I really don't think so-----

Mylhouse--

I am worried about your load shown in the other topic area.
Hottest load I find for H. Universal with a 230 gr. jacketed bullet is 6.3 gr for 841 fps. Are you saying you have a Midway Load Map with 7.2 published? Please--Verify this right away. If it is NOT published, I ask that you edit your post with suitable disclaimers and cautionary notes in BOLD font.

I sense you are a bit uneasy or you wouldn't have posted this question. Thanks for the concern.

Johnny
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[Hal]

I looked at Hogdon's website and found that 7.2gr max load listed for a 185gr bullet, not a 230gr.

http://www.hodgdon.com/data/pistol/index.htm

 

[Johnny Guest]

RAE---

Thanks for the site URL. That's what concerned me. Actually, the Hogdon's website lists max for the 230 jacketed bullet at a little lighter than my other references--

Hogdon's says 6.0 gr is MAX with the 230.

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Look, friends, I myself use certain loads which are above published maximums. They were worked up years ago, either from old data or in the absence of published data for a given load combination. BUT YOU SELDOM SEE THOSE LOADS POSTED ON TFL. On the rare occasions I mention them--Such as one for .44 Special with 240 bullets and Unique powder a few months ago-- I always post proper cautions.

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