How long until the assault weapons ban is back
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I certainly don't think that it is out of the realm of possibility...but in the big picture, gun control has been a dead issue for a while now...politicians are too afraid to tackle it (from either side).
They know that taking on the issue means that they will immediately and irrevocably lose votes since it is such an emotional issue. Plus, I think that even anti-gunners are realizing (whether they admit it or not) that gun control really doesn't curtail crime. It takes some people (typically liberals) longer to figure out the obvious. Go figure...
They know that taking on the issue means that they will immediately and irrevocably lose votes since it is such an emotional issue. Plus, I think that even anti-gunners are realizing (whether they admit it or not) that gun control really doesn't curtail crime. It takes some people (typically liberals) longer to figure out the obvious. Go figure...
If the Democratic party gets back in power, which is a distinct possibility, we will see a resurgence of gun control laws including a new AWB that will make to last one seem mild. A snake is a snake.
I am no fan of Bush and the Republicans but they at least cater to the gun owners for the votes.
I do not even trust the Repubs, Giuliani is flying high in polls and is an Anti. Worse than Clinton.
If Rudy runs against Hillary we loose either way.
Best we can hope for is a grandfather clause, buy your stuff now while you can.
I am no fan of Bush and the Republicans but they at least cater to the gun owners for the votes.
I do not even trust the Repubs, Giuliani is flying high in polls and is an Anti. Worse than Clinton.
If Rudy runs against Hillary we loose either way.
Best we can hope for is a grandfather clause, buy your stuff now while you can.
We are one election away from getting another AWB or possibly worse. All it's going to take to get another AWB on the books is for power in the Congress to shift.
Since the ruling party has been doing a bang-up job of screwing up everything they touch, that shift will occur next election.
We could conceivably see Duhbya signing a new AWB that he pledged to do.
Since the ruling party has been doing a bang-up job of screwing up everything they touch, that shift will occur next election.
We could conceivably see Duhbya signing a new AWB that he pledged to do.
I don't believe the dems, Feinstein, CLINTON, Kerry, Kennedy have given up at all. They want another AWB and much more! Turn em all in Mr and MRS America.
Their smart, and patient. GWB is setting the stage for a big Dem win. I lost most faith in GWB this past year, what a dissapointment.
Their smart, and patient. GWB is setting the stage for a big Dem win. I lost most faith in GWB this past year, what a dissapointment.
Agree GWB has paved the dems road to the white house but I don't necessarily see more gun control.
The politicians will push it only where it helps them and even in the blue states it has never helped them much.
I see the plate more than full with the global economy, terrorist stuff, asian politics (China), southern hemisphere politics (Venezuela, Cuba, etc.), huge budget deficits, SS and energy costs. Besides, gun control is down and so is crime. Hard to make an arguement that gun control makes the public safer with those statistics plus terrorists running loose.
I'm much more concerned about what the dems will do about the things I listed above. I fear they will see the baby-boomer's retirement savings as their next plunder.
The politicians will push it only where it helps them and even in the blue states it has never helped them much.
I see the plate more than full with the global economy, terrorist stuff, asian politics (China), southern hemisphere politics (Venezuela, Cuba, etc.), huge budget deficits, SS and energy costs. Besides, gun control is down and so is crime. Hard to make an arguement that gun control makes the public safer with those statistics plus terrorists running loose.
I'm much more concerned about what the dems will do about the things I listed above. I fear they will see the baby-boomer's retirement savings as their next plunder.
It has changed mine a little bit. I made it a point recently to puchase an AK and an M-16 with multiple extended mags for them as well as ammo. I also keep a sharp eye out for anything that might be taken from me in the future and might go the extra mile to make a purchase knowing full well that it might be my last chance to do so.
azredhawk44
Moderator
I will buy a .50BMG the week before they are banned. .50BMG AP ammo too.
I will buy .30 caliber AP rounds the week before they are banned. I can currently buy them for a decent price from Wideners, so I figure I don't need them now.
Basically, once I hear of any legislation proposed, I will place an order.
Until then, it all stays sporting and hunting related.
I will buy .30 caliber AP rounds the week before they are banned. I can currently buy them for a decent price from Wideners, so I figure I don't need them now.
Basically, once I hear of any legislation proposed, I will place an order.
Until then, it all stays sporting and hunting related.
steelheart
Moderator
Stock up now - you never know what the future may bring.
JohnBrowning
New member
That is a primary concern of mine. I read in SAR that a company is making C drums for Fal's. They will be expensive, but I intend to buy a couple. History repeats itself in a disgusting rhythm.
I'm far less certain that restrictive laws would necessarily creep across state lines.
New York's Sullivan law has been around since 1911. The state as a whole has had pretty draconian handgun laws for as long as I can remember - that'd be the '60's
95 years and they haven't managed to export the paranoia across a relatively skinny lake Champlain to Vermont.
There was a time when every new experimental educational protocol in California spread like wildfire into flyover country. Unless I am very much mistaken, those days are gone.
We've already had an AWB that came and went offering no discernable difference between the time it was in effect and not. We can rely on politicians and the media to forget but we'll remind them: we tried it; it didn't do anything other than sell a bunch of guns.
A number of states have gone "shall issue". New handgun controls will be difficult to pass in any of these. The antis are in a position of having to roll back our gains before they can get to the chewy center.
Tilting at "assault weapons" and BMGs is the result of failing miserably at their primary goal of banning handguns. The fight shifts. Still, I don't see California's issues on EBR's having any more effect than New York's defacto handgun not-quite-a-ban (permit required to purchase).
Hopefully, the handgunners and shotgunners won't throw the EBR / BMG crowd under the bus in a manner reminiscent of 1994. I doubt it though: hard not to notice the similarities between the ban dejour and one's duck gun. I really wish Brady and VPC had been more vocal about Cheney's accident - coud've done more to mobilize the shotgunners than any other single event.
Personally, I think another AWB would need some blood for the pols to dance in. I wonder how easy it is to sleep at night knowing your cause can't be advanced without someone killing a bunch of school kids? Ghoulish way to live one's life.
New York's Sullivan law has been around since 1911. The state as a whole has had pretty draconian handgun laws for as long as I can remember - that'd be the '60's
95 years and they haven't managed to export the paranoia across a relatively skinny lake Champlain to Vermont.
There was a time when every new experimental educational protocol in California spread like wildfire into flyover country. Unless I am very much mistaken, those days are gone.
We've already had an AWB that came and went offering no discernable difference between the time it was in effect and not. We can rely on politicians and the media to forget but we'll remind them: we tried it; it didn't do anything other than sell a bunch of guns.
A number of states have gone "shall issue". New handgun controls will be difficult to pass in any of these. The antis are in a position of having to roll back our gains before they can get to the chewy center.
Tilting at "assault weapons" and BMGs is the result of failing miserably at their primary goal of banning handguns. The fight shifts. Still, I don't see California's issues on EBR's having any more effect than New York's defacto handgun not-quite-a-ban (permit required to purchase).
Hopefully, the handgunners and shotgunners won't throw the EBR / BMG crowd under the bus in a manner reminiscent of 1994. I doubt it though: hard not to notice the similarities between the ban dejour and one's duck gun. I really wish Brady and VPC had been more vocal about Cheney's accident - coud've done more to mobilize the shotgunners than any other single event.
Personally, I think another AWB would need some blood for the pols to dance in. I wonder how easy it is to sleep at night knowing your cause can't be advanced without someone killing a bunch of school kids? Ghoulish way to live one's life.
Master Blaster
New member
Yes they are, they will see their election as a mandate to pass the most onerous gun control we have ever seen. Every semi auto will be banned every one, even your marlin model 60 and your 10/22.
My guess is 2009 is when the next one will get passed and signed into law. And our fellow gunnies, READ the HUNTERS who only HUNT and see no need for a baby killin assault rifle will help get it passed.
Count on it.