High gun sales due to Y2K? Nope...

DC

Moderator Emeritus
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>World Forum on the Future of Sport Shooting - Mailing list
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Century end, lawsuit threats spark gun sales spike


By Leslie Gevirtz



BOSTON, (Reuters) - More than a million Americans asked for background
checks so they could buy guns in December, a surge insiders say has something
to do with Millennium mania, but more to do with pending litigation.


``It's been a good year for Smith & Wesson and from what I'm hearing for the
rest of the industry as well,'' said Ken Jourgensen, a spokesman for the
legendary handgun maker.


Sturm, Ruger & Co (RGR.N), the Connecticut-based maker of sporting guns, told
Reuters, ``Orders for the quarter (ending Dec 31) versus the same quarter
last year seem to be stronger.'' However, no specific figures were released.


Current and pending litigation, some of which seeks to hold gunmakers
responsible for the criminal misuse of firearms, is making many consumers
rush to buy arms before any anti-gun verdicts or new laws further restrict
their purchase, he said.


``I think the biggest thing driving it is the litigation and the possible
legislation that is being considered,'' Jourgensen said, adding, ``Y2K is
selling a lot of ammo at this point, not guns. The folks worried about Y2K
have been planning for a long, long time.''


Federal and state officials conducted 1,045,799 background checks from Dec. 1
through Dec. 26. During the third week of December, the FBI conducted 162,595
such checks compared with 129,558 for the same time a year earlier.


``We expected a December spike based on Christmas sales,'' Daniel Wells,
acting operations manager for the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background
Check system in Clarksburg, W. Va. told Reuters. The rise is ``a bit larger
than we expected. But it's nothing we can't handle.''


December marked the second month in a row of the agency conducting a million
background checks, he said.


The record day in volume was set on Dec. 23 when his unit was asked to
conduct 67,000 background checks.


Since the nationwide background checks went into place in Nov. 1998, state
and federal officials have conducted 9,823,408 checks, according to the FBI.


The checks were mandated by the so-called Brady Law, named for White House
press secretary Nicholas Brady who was severely wounded in the 1981
assassination attempt on President Reagan.


``We saw the same spike in sales in 1993-94,'' said Jourgensen, the spokesman
for Smith & Wesson, a subsidiary of the UK manufacturer Tomkins PLC ).
``There was a 90-day window before the law took effect and people were buying
everything they could afford, he said.''


``Any time there's talk of legislation, people who are concerned about
firearms, who have been thinking about buying a gun, who fear they may not be
able to in the future or they're worried about parts, they buy them,'' he
said.


The gun industry has succeeded in having three of the 19 lawsuits filed
against it by 28 cities and counties thrown out of court. The municipalities
want to hold handgun makers and distributors responsible for the criminal
misuse of firearms.


The Clinton administration is also threatening to bring a class action
lawsuit on behalf of the nation's 3,191 public-housing authorities.


The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development says public-housing
authorities spend about $1 billion a year trying to keep their 3.3 million
residents safe from gun violence.


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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!
 

El Jefe

New member
DC, I found this so curious that I posted it on my site as well, along with some others that were revelent. Had to blame it on something I guess. Christmas is as good an excuse as any, Heck I got a new Beretta from my mommy, so I suppose.......NOT

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...“ They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” --Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759.

Take care and God Bless, El Jefe
 

Oatka

New member
Revealing the governmental mindset -- "The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development says public-housing authorities spend about $1 billion a year trying to keep their 3.3 million residents safe from gun violence."

Yet they back a ban on cheap handguns so "their" residents are prevented from protecting themselves.

Big Brother will protect you (sometimes).


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The New World Order has a Third Reich odor.
 

Blue Jays

New member
Hi DC and Everyone-

Similar information appeared on page A20 of The Wall Street Journal today. All sorts of "reasons" were given as to why so many more guns weren't really being purchased.

Also of great interest was a brilliantly succinct letter from a Miguel A. Faria, Jr., MD who wrote:

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Registering Our Guns Is Threat To Freedom

Dennis Farney's "Why Two Doctors Value Their Guns, Knowing the Toll" (WSJ Dec.13, page 1) was a poignant piece of reporting. The shooting tragedy notwithstanding, Drs. Kelly and Borkon represent the naivete of many Americans who still believe the Second Amendment is about hunting. It's not. It's about the right to protect yourself and your family, and even more importantly -- preserving freedom.

While these doctors are NRA members and avid hunters, they want to have their cake and eat it too. Dr. Borkon wrote the NRA in protestation for holding its scheduled Denver convention. Dr. Kelly is not "bothered by gun registration" and "doesn't see the need for semi-automatic assault rifles."

The Bill of Rights, including the Second Amendment, was added to the Constitution to limit the power of leviathan government, which the Founding Fathers believed had a monopolistic tendency to wrest powers away from individual citizens.

James Madison wrote that the advantage that Americans have over every other nation is that they are armed. And George Mason wrote, "To disarm the people is the best most effectual way to enslave them..." The problem with registration is that it leads down the slippery slope of confiscation.

As a neurosurgeon who has treated many gunshot victims in the middle of the night, I decry violence in our society. And yet, we must be aware of the lessons of history. In my own experience, as a 13-year-old who escaped from Communist Cuba, one harsh memory that remains indelibly etched in my mind is the Cuban lesson of gun control: Before 1958, dictator Fulgencio Batista had all citizens register their firearms. After the revolution, Raul and Fidel Castro had their Communist thugs go door-to-door and, using the registration lists, confiscated all the firearms, disarming all citizens. When Cubans lost their guns, they also lost their freedom.

Miguel A. Faria, Jr., M.D.
Editor-In-Chief
Medical Sentinel of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons
Macon, Georgia
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What a breath of fresh air from the good doctor Faria. My hat is off to that gentleman.

Regards to all,

~ Blue Jays ~
 

Mal H

Staff
Who is Nicholas Brady? (Answer: he held a few offices in Reagan admin.) Gevirtz should have known it was James Brady.
 

jimpeel

New member
I, too, wrote a letter to the WSJ on that article. It wasn't printed. I guess I should start signing Dr. Peel.

Re: Why Two Doctors Still Value Their Guns, Knowing The Toll (12-13-99)

Dear Sirs,

In the article "Why Two Doctors Still Value Their Guns, Knowing The Toll"
it was stated "Just after April's Columbine massacre in Colorado, Dr.
Borkon had written to the NRA to protest its decision to go ahead with
its scheduled Denver convention. "That was classless," he says."

The NRA canceled as much of the convention as they could. They had no
choice but to have the business meeting as it was the annual business
meeting required by their charter and the laws of the state of New York
where they are incorporated. Nothing would have pleased their enemies
more than for them to cancel that meeting. They would have been camped
out on the doorstep of the New York State Attorney General's office on
Monday morning demanding them to pull the charter of the organization.
What a delicious victory that would have been -- defeating the enemy with
a weapon they handed you for free that was their ultimate and overwhelming
demise.

The article went on to state "Dr. Kelly is more ambivalent. He thinks it
"incredibly admirable" that former President George Bush resigned as a
lifetime NRA member after a top NRA officer described firearms agents as
"jackbooted thugs."

The term "jackbooted thugs" was a modified use of "jackbooted American
fascists" which was first used by Rep. John Dingell D-MI during
congressional hearings on the BATF in 1980. Another democratic
representative, Harold Volkmer, called the BATF "One of the most
Rambo-rogue law enforcement agencies in the United States" at about the
same time. There was no outcry over the use of those terms when they were
used by democrats.

The good doctor then went on to state "gun registration doesn't bother
me," ... "I've got nothing to hide."

That has always been the argument of those who would abrogate the rights
of others. "If you've done nothing, you should hide nothing. These things
are necessary". As William Penn said "Necessity is the plea of every
infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the
creed of slaves."

Sincerely,

Jim Peel




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Gun Control: The proposition that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own panty hose, is more acceptable than allowing that same woman to defend herself with a firearm.
 

Jeff Thomas

New member
Well, I personally was shaken out of my slumber by these lawsuits. I think they are an immoral, and potentially successful way of destroying this ancient right. It awakened me to the dangers in store for the RKBA, and personally I don't doubt that others have decided this is their signal to buy quality firearms for their children and grandchildren (for use as adults - when they may potentially be unable to buy them).

My guess is that January 1, 2000 will come and go, and the impact on firearms sales will not be great. It is the legal climate, IMHO. So much for the VPC's recent admonition to the firearms industry about playing up Y2K fears - ironically, it is fear of VPC and HCI that is driving this surge in firearms business.
 

alan

New member
Re the recent/current spurt in gun sales, did anyone ever hear of that most basic of all "laws", THE LAW OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES?

We have seen it at work before, we shall see it at work again, and at least to some extent, we see it at work now.
 
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