HI CAP mag ban of pre 94 mags..GWB to sign

HK1

Moderator
introduced today by rep Diane Degette "dem".....colorado is a complete importation ban of pre 94 hi capacity mags...george Walker bush has indicated he would sign it.....details on that at www.georgeWBush.com

I started a thread on this on another forum a few weeks back and received the typical response...."aint goin happen"....well you better buy more then what U need RFN...those cheap 7.99 HK91 mags are goin be 100.00 before you can blink..same holds for all you HK,FN...etc owners..dont bitch if it happens..you were warned..and I hope Im wrong on this one
 

BigG

New member
Well, that link just gives me George's site. I do not have time to search it to see which of the 2,500 news releases relate to your post.
 

1031

New member
Dubya said flat out before we elected him that he supports the ban of "hi cap" magazines. I fully expect him to live up to his word on that. Do not count on the "hi cap mag" situation to get any better any time soon.
 

papercut

New member
Keep in mind that the bill introduced by Rep. Degette must pass both houses of Congress before G.W. gets to sign it.

I don't think it will pass the House of Representatives. The Senate is another story.
 

rowdy1

New member
RikWriter,
Maybe you should read this

http://www.georgewbush.com/issues/guns.html

Guns

Governor Bush believes the best gun control measure is to vigorously prosecute those who illegally sell guns, those who illegally carry guns, and those who illegally commit crimes with guns. Governor Bush’s priority as President will be to keep guns away from criminals and juveniles. He will make federal gun prosecutions a top priority, reversing the 46% decline in federal gun prosecutions under the Clinton-Gore Administration. In addition, he will protect law-abiding citizens’ constitutional Second Amendment rights while at the same time enacting reasonable, common-sense restrictions on the unsafe use of firearms.




Governor Bush’s Policies

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Vigorous enforcement of current gun laws


Enforce federal gun laws. Under the Clinton-Gore Administration, federal gun prosecutions have dropped 46%. Governor Bush will give prosecutors the resources they need to aggressively enforce our gun laws and will provide more funding for aggressive gun law enforcement programs such as Texas Exile and Project Exile in Richmond, Virginia.


Make instant-check prosecutions a top priority. Under the Clinton-Gore Administration, there have only been 8 prosecutions out of over 200,000 direct violations of the Brady Law. Governor Bush will give prosecutors the desperately needed resources they need to aggressively enforce our gun laws.

Background checks at gun shows and pawn shops


Expand ‘instant check’ system. Governor Bush believes the instant check system is the best way to keep criminals from buying guns at gun shows and supports changing federal law to give gun show sponsors special access to the National Instant Check System to conduct checks on behalf of non-licensed vendors.

Increase the age for possession of a handgun


Increase the minimum age from 18 to 21. Governor Bush supports raising the age from 18 to 21 to possess a handgun without parental supervision. Under current law, a person must be 21 or older to purchase a handgun.

Supports Juvenile Assault Weapons Ban


Semi-automatic assault weapons ban for juveniles. This would extend the current limitations (subject to the current exceptions) on youth possession of handguns to semi-automatic assault weapons.

Supports child safety locks for all handguns.


Child safety locks for handguns. Governor Bush supports voluntary efforts to equip all handguns with child safety locks. If Congress passed legislation requiring mandatory trigger locks for all new handguns, he would sign it. He is concerned, however, that such legislation not be seen as a panacea, because adults still have to be responsible for using the trigger locks and for monitoring their children's actions.


Project Childsafe. Because congressional proposals to mandate child safety locks affect only new handguns, and not the 65 million handguns already in circulation, Governor Bush has called for Project Childsafe – a national initiative to provide federal matching funds to make child safety locks available for every single handgun in America.

Supports ban on importation of high-capacity ammunition clips.

Include imported high-capacity ammunition clips to current ban. Governor Bush supports extending the current ban on high-capacity ammunition clips to include those imported from foreign countries.

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RikWriter

New member
Read that months ago. Politicians say what they have to say to get elected. I am looking at what he's DONE since being elected.
 

rowdy1

New member
I personally believe G.W. to be an honest guy. I have not heard him saying many things that he has not followed through on.
 

dZ

New member
the only ping i get on thomas.loc.gov is:
Large Capacity Ammunition Magazine Import Ban Act of 2001 (Introduced in the Senate)

S 134 IS

107th CONGRESS

1st Session

S. 134

To ban the importation of large capacity ammunition feeding devices.

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

January 22, 2001

Mrs. FEINSTEIN introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary



A BILL

To ban the importation of large capacity ammunition feeding devices.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Large Capacity Ammunition Magazine Import Ban Act of 2001'.
 

HK1

Moderator
diane degette was recently heard saying we should close the sport utility loop hole...lmao...this is what we are up against..total stupidity
 

RMc

New member
Speaking of saying (or doing) anything to get elected, keep in mind 2004 is an election year. Does anyone really believe Bush Junior is going to risk the leftmedia hurricane by NOT signing the reauthorization? After all, anyone who wants standard-capacity mags doesn't care about "the children." "BAAAAD!" the sheeple would bleat. So good ol' Karl Rove and the rest of the bipartisan statist "compassionate conservative" advisors will just tell him that, as usual, gun owners will have no other alternative. Worse, if the McCain "close the gun show loophole" bill reaches his desk, he'll sign that POS as well. And the NRA will crow about "enforcing the laws we have" while giving Bush Junior an "A+" grade for doing so.

Yup, cheap standard-cap mags will indeed flood the market in 2005.
 

HK1

Moderator
the bill was introduced may 19th or 20th..as far as the 94 crime bill sunsetting in 2004..well..ive got ocean front property in new mexico..and I think you are right..the NRA will bitch a little then give shrub an A+ rating..ive never understood how they determine those ratings....also..I did hear it may have died in commitee....but im trying to verify this
 

jawper

New member
I believe this is the entire bill.
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107th CONGRESS, 1ST SESSION IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES AS INTRODUCED IN THE SENATE

S. 134

2001 S. 134; 107 S. 134; Retrieve Bill Tracking Report

SYNOPSIS: A bill to ban the importation of large capacity ammunition feeding devices.

DATE OF INTRODUCTION: January 22, 2001

SPONSOR(S): Sponsor and Cosponsors as of 01/25/2001 FEINSTEIN, DIANNE (D-CA) - Sponsor

TEXT: S 134 IS

107th CONGRESS

1st Session

S. 134

To ban the importation of large capacity ammunition feeding devices.

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IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

January 22, 2001

Mrs. Feinstein introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

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A BILL

To ban the importation of large capacity ammunition feeding devices.

* Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the * * United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the "Large Capacity Ammunition Magazine Import Ban Act of 2001".

SEC. 2. BAN ON IMPORTING LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES.

Section 922(w) of title 18, United States Code, is amended--

(1) in paragraph (1), by striking "(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2)" and inserting "(1)(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B)";

(2) in paragraph (2), by striking "(2) Paragraph (1)" and inserting "(B) Subparagraph (A)";

(3) by inserting before paragraph (3) the following new paragraph:

"(2) It shall be unlawful for any person to import a large capacity ammunition feeding device."; and

(4) in paragraph (4)--

(A) by striking "(1)" each place it appears and inserting "(1)(A)"; and

(B) by striking "(2)" and inserting "(1)(B)".

SEC. 3. CONFORMING AMENDMENT.

Section 921(a)(31) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by striking "manufactured after the date of enactment of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994".
 

madman kirk

New member
HR 1922 IH

107th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 1922
To ban the importation of large capacity ammunition feeding devices, and to extend the ban on transferring such devices to those that were manufactured before the ban became law.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
May 21, 2001
Ms. DEGETTE (for herself, Mr. ABERCROMBIE, Mr. BLAGOJEVICH, Mr. BLUMENAUER, Ms. BROWN of Florida, Ms. CARSON of Indiana, Mrs. JONES of Ohio, Ms. NORTON, Ms. WOOLSEY, Mr. CAPUANO, Mr. DAVIS of Illinois, Mr. KENNEDY of Rhode Island, Mr. MEEHAN, Mr. NADLER, Mr. WEXLER, Mr. WYNN, Mr. COYNE, Mr. FRANK, Ms. SCHAKOWSKY, Mr. MCGOVERN, Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California, Mr. BARRETT of Wisconsin, Mrs. TAUSCHER, and Mr. MORAN of Virginia) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
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A BILL
To ban the importation of large capacity ammunition feeding devices, and to extend the ban on transferring such devices to those that were manufactured before the ban became law.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. BAN ON IMPORTING LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES.
Section 922(w) of title 18, United States Code, is amended--
(1) in paragraph (1), by striking `(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2)' and inserting `(1)(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B)';
(2) in paragraph (2), by striking `(2) Paragraph (1)' and inserting `(B) Subparagraph (A)';
(3) by inserting before paragraph (3) the following:
`(2) It shall be unlawful for any person to import a large capacity ammunition feeding device.'; and
(4) in paragraph (4)--
(A) by striking `(1)' each place it appears and inserting `(1)(A)'; and
(B) by striking `(2)' and inserting `(1)(B)'.
SEC. 2. EXTENSION OF BAN ON TRANSFERRING LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES TO THOSE THAT WERE MANUFACTURED BEFORE THE BAN BECAME LAW.
(a) ELIMINATION OF EXEMPTION FOR TRANSFER OF DEVICES LAWFULLY POSSESSED BEFORE ENACTMENT OF THE BAN- Section 922(w)(1)(B) of title 18, United States Code, as so redesignated by section 1 of this Act, is amended by striking `or transfer'.
(b) EXPANDED DEFINITION- Section 921(a)(31)(A) of such title is amended by striking `manufactured after the date of enactment of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994'.
 
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