Gun stores in Toronto, Canada?

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Joe Mamma

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Does anyone know of any decent gun stores in Toronto, Canada (preferably downtown Toronto)? I will be visiting there and want to know if there is anything worth seeing. I am mostly interested in pistols but, anything good would be worth visiting. Heck, even if they don't sell lots of guns, but have cool gun t-shirts or something I'd stop by!

Also, does Canada have gun laws that are as restrictive as the USA? Thanks.

Joe Mamma
 
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hksigwalther

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The gun laws in Canada are considerably more restrictive than here in the US. I generally try to make it up to Toronto a couple times a year as there are a few things in Canada that you can't or is difficult to get here, particularly foreign stuff like periodicals, mags, books, food, etc. (unless you live somepace like NYC). I don't even bother trying to find gun shops up there as I know they will be no where close to what we have down here. Driving is more trouble than its worth in downtown Toronto due to traffic and paid parking. Take the sub or walk. If you find yourself anywhere near Yorkville, go to The Coffee Mill. THE BEST wienerschnitzel. Get to the CN tower, currently the world's tallest free standing structure (I think it will surpassed in the next few years).
 
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nemesis

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I think you'd have to apply for a Gun Shop Visiting Permit and have a Viewing Permit to be able to look at any firearms.
 
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Nightcrawler

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I was in Toronto for Model UN last winter. Nice town. Very clean. People stand obediently at Dont' Walk signs. Lots of hobos with what look like $200 sleeping bags. They sell beer on the U of Toronto campus, much to the delight of my classmates (I don't drink).

It was kind of creepy, though, that feeling that I couldn't buy a box of handgun ammo anywhere in town, AFAIK...left me feeling uneasy....
 
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Brian Gibbons

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How about Hamilton Ontario?

It's about an hour's drive from downtown Toronto but it's worth a stop if you are traveling around. The store is 'Al Simmons Gun Shop' at 122 Locke St. South in Hamilton (Ph 905-522-1131). Get me a fax number and I can send you the Canadian "Gun Shop Visiting Permit Request Form" and the "Firearms Viewing Certificate Application". If your worried about laws, I recommend you brush up on American gun laws and import restrictions. You can buy certain things in a Canadian gun shop that are illegal in the States ...
 
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Brian Gibbons

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How about Hamilton Ontario?

It's about an hour's drive from downtown Toronto but it's worth a stop if you are traveling around. The store is 'Al Simmons Gun Shop' at 122 Locke St. South in Hamilton (Ph 905-522-1131). Get me a fax number and I can send you the Canadian "Gun Shop Visiting Permit Request Form" and the "Firearms Viewing Certificate Application". If your worried about laws, I recommend you brush up on American gun laws and import restrictions. You can buy certain things in a Canadian gun shop that are illegal in the States ...
 
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Nightcrawler

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Wait a sec.

You mean he WASN'T joking? You actually DO need a permit to go IN to a gun store in Canada?

God almighty.

I might be interested in visiting a Canadian gun shop sometime. What all do I need to do?
 
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Cain R

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Geez guys its bad but not that bad! Of course you don't need a permit to visit a gun shop, you do need a permit to buy any type of firearm, factory ammunition and lots of air rifles too.

Handloading components are ok, no paper work necessary and cheap too by US standards, $10.00/100 Cdn for .22cal 55gr FMJ Winchester for example, powders/primers are getting expensive though, anywhere from $37-55/lb.

I don't know about Toronto (the a-*ole of the world IMHO) but there are some super gun shops here in Alberta, three really nice ones in Calgary and two super shops up in Edmonton where I get most of my stuff.:D
 
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CP220

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Ahh, good old Canada.

How I love this country. Absolute **** gun laws, horrible weather, all the good stuff.

No but seriously, I don't agree with some of our laws up here, but it could be much worse.

You don't need a permit to look at/handle guns, hell you don't need a permit to shoot guns if someone that has a licence is around.

A lot of things suck, like the prohibition of any gun with a barrel of 105mm or less. Or AK's and a most HK long guns being prohibited.

But 14-inch shotguns are in the lowest of the classifications of shotguns. And M203's aren't considered firearms so anyone (licensed or not) can buy one.

While you're up here, drink the beer. It's worth the trip.
 
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zanthope

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Maybe this is a little off-post, but....

I grew up in Toronto, but left in the 60's...live in southern Ohio now.

One of my earliest and fondest memories about firearms is going downtown shopping with my mother. We'd go to Eaton's and Simpson's, where one or the other would always have a table out in the open HEAPED with WWII surplus Enfields, selling for comparatively next-to-nothing, back in saner times before PC weenies and socialists took over.

I was eight or nine years old. I had to "inspect" as many of these rifles as I could get my hands on, until my mother came to get me or a clerk ran me off. I'd go home covered in and reeking of cosmoline, and, of course, get yelled at, which was OK.

Every year at the "Ex," they'd give away surplus gas masks as consolation prizes at the cheapy hoop-throwing or coin-tossing sort of games. At one time I think I had twenty or so in my room. My father made me get rid of some of them.

I miss Toronto sometimes. I SURE miss being a kid!!!
 
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SDC

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I'm not sure how far you're willing to travel in the area, but United Ranges is in the Toronto area, and they're the largest indoor range in Canada (check out their web site at www.unitedranges.com ). Don't expect to see a whole lot of interesting stuff though; most of the "gee-whiz" stuff has been declared "Prohibited" in Canada, and the Liberals have decided that Canadians are too stupid and dangerous to be trusted with any handgun in 25 or 32 calibre, or with a barrel shorter than 106mm (about 4 1/4").
 
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Brian Gibbons

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M203 not a firearm???

The Canadian 'FIREARMS ACT' shows the definition of a 'firearm' as follows: "firearm" 'means a barreled weapon from which any shot, bullet, or other projectile can be discharged and that is capable of causing serious bodily injury or death to a person, and includes any frame or receiver of such a barreled weapon and anything that can be adapted for use as a firearm'. I would be quite interested to learn how the M203 would not be classified as a firearm under the definition given. Even if the muzzle velocity were under 500fps, I think the 'capable of causing serious bodily injury' clause would be the catch-all phrase ...
 
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CP220

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When I mean M203, I mean the 40mm underbarrel grenade launcher.

How the hell they don't classify it as a firearm is beyond me. But don't believe me, check it out at
http://www.theshootingedge.com/tse

I believe it is under 40 mm "flare launcher" in the Sig bluestar section.

The last time I was in there, they told me (with proof in documents from the CFC) that no permit is needed to buy one.


As for ammo for it, I heard that you can buy it at army surplus stores around here. Haven't checked it out myself.... yet:)
 
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SDC

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The reason the M203 (and the M79, for that matter) aren't considered "firearms" in Canada, is that their muzzle velocity is too low; our cut-off is 500 feet-per-second (about 152.4 metres per second). This was to avoid having to treat pellet and BB guns as firearms; if you have an airgun that fires a pellet faster than 500 fps, then it's considered a firearm in the same way that a Rem. 700 is. However, if you were to commit a CRIME with one (in the same way that if you were to commit a crime with an air pistol), you would quickly find yourself in court facing a "firearm" charge. If you've got the idea that you can run around with some HE rounds for an M203/M79 though, you've got another think coming; these are controlled items in and of themselves. That being said, I'd still like to find a frame/receiver for an M79, just so I could launch these practice rounds.
 
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enforcer65

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Toronto Gun laws

Thers no such thing as responsible gun ownership in toronto.

Even ordering a non-firing replica pistol from the states is not allowed in the country. US dealers shy away. Thats how ignorant are the gun laws in this province.

Guns shops? They wont even let you touch a gun irregardless if its not loaded or if firing pin is removed. If you dont have a license.

I wont be surprised if bb guns and pellets are licensed one day. Air pistol and rifle are regulated as well.

Anyting over 500fps on an air rifle / pistol needs a licence also. You want to target shoot? Get a sling shot!
 
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