Goodbye Noisy Cricket... Hello NC 2.0!

samsmix

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I liked my P3AT. We worked well together. It was a rocky relationship at first, but I fluffed and I buffed and eventually we became reliable and effective out to a distance where better sights might be usable, (about 25 yards or so). 50 yard hits seemed pretty doable on ICE-QT targets, though not necissarily always center of mass...

...and so I sold my little supercarry, and bought a Ruger LCP. I hope we work well together.
 

samsmix

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Yes, and better fit and finish. More comfortable in my hand, and better, easier to pick up sights. I liked my P3AT, so I bought...a nicer P3AT. Knowingly.
 

samsmix

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I always was a but curious as to why the Kel-tec is +P rated while the Ruger is not, but I wasn't going to run +Ps out of this barrel length & weight class anyhow.
 

dogtown tom

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samsmix I always was a but curious as to why the Kel-tec is +P rated while the Ruger is not, but I wasn't going to run +Ps out of this barrel length & weight class anyhow.
Because Ruger is smart enough to know that there is no SAAMI or CIP spec for ".380 +P".

And the P3at isn't "rated" for +P, KelTec just says:
"AMMUNITION: The P-3AT Pistol is designed and chambered for the .380 Auto
cartridge. Do not use any other ammuntion. The P-3AT will accept +P
ammuntion, however not with continuous use."

When you can't even spell "ammunition" correctly, it doesn't exactly inspire much confidence in their products does it?:D

https://www.keltecweapons.com/media/catalog/category/pistols/p3at/p3at_series_manual.pdf
 

samsmix

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Model12Win, I am with you, but a friend saw me shooting the Kel-tec right after watching Men In Black. He called it my "noisy cricket" due to its small size and snappy recoil, and the name just stuck.
 

Mosin44az

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LCP is a clear upgrade over the Kel-Tec, doesn't need post-purchase attention to work properly. Better materials, better fit and finish, better gun. The "extra weight" is nothing.
 

Bart Noir

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And if you compare the LCP Custom (one with the red trigger) to the P3AT, you get much much better sights and certainly a better trigger.

I went from 1st Gen KelTec which needed an entire slide replacement before it worked, to a S&W Bodyguard 380 to the LCP Custom.

And now I'm keeping my eyes open for the LCP 2 which was just announced. Slide stays back on an empty magazine, like the Bodyguard.

Bart Noir
 

samsmix

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The LCP2 sounds like the best thing yet!

Thus far I LOVE this little gun. I haven't given it a full workout, but it chewed through 100 rounds of everything that made my Kel-tec choke, including a box of 71gr Pow-R-ball, WWB flat point FMJs, and assorted hollow points. It ate them all without a single hiccup. I didn't wring it out for accuracy, but egg-sized dirt clods were easy to bust at 15-20 feet. The better sights seemed to help.

The only thing I think I might do is square the face of the front sight. The concave "snag-free" design catches light in a bad way.
 

P71pilot

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I really like the PF9, but dont own one. If i ever decide to get a pocket sized pistol, the ruger LC9S May be the buy.

A noisy cricket is more like a heizer defense pocket AR or pocket AK. 2 shot pistol chambered in rifle cartridges. Awesome
 

samsmix

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I've seen the Heizer fired. Looked painful!

I liked the LC9, but already own a Shield. The LCP serves a different need for me.
 

tallball

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I am glad that you like it.

I have had my P3AT for something like five years and it has never once malfunctioned.

But it is wonderful to live in a country with so many choices!

I am a Ruger fan and own something like ten of them - more than any other brand. In my experience they make very good guns.
 
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