FL CCW Supporters: A Call to Arms

LonWilson

New member
Hello, all.

A few years ago, I naively tried to get the age to acquire a concealed firearms license in FL from 21 to 18. It didn't work. You probably don't even know who I am. I tried getting the NRA to help, no help. I tried getting Unified Sportsman of Florida to help. Nada. Marion Hammer wasn't even interested in lifting a finger to help.

Even Gun Owners of America, who was my biggest supporter in my effort, didn't have the funds or the ability to fight in my state due to a lack of state organization here that is as rabidly pro-gun as they are.

So I gave up. I didn't realize that the 21 age limit is just "one of those things you can't change, ever". Sorta like Massachusetts or Maryland ever passing shall-issue CCW in our lifetimes...not.

Well, there were also some stuff in there that was possible, including removing some locations from the subsection of "prohibited places of carry". Other states, such as Virginia, Georgia, Kentucky, and Utah (Utah especially. Those guys are hardcore) have been removing restrictions from their licensees for the last few years.

However, where has Florida been? Stagnant. We scored one major victory in 1987 when we got the license law in the first place, we've gotten reducing of fees, an extension of the term of the license, but that's it.

Florida was the state that started it all, the movement to liberalize concealed carry laws across this country. The anti-gunners are so desperate to stop this wave that they've filed suit in NM, and have attempted to overturn it in MI.

However, I'm at a loss for words about Florida. I've lived here for 13 years. While other states are continually liberalizing their concealed firearms laws, Florida is continuing to stagnate.

Florida gun owners for the last 15 years have proven the naysayers wrong. Yet, they aren't shown any courtesy by reducing the places they are prohibited from carrying. It's like "Okay, you've shown yourself trustworthy, we just won't repeal the law and make you go back to the old ways of permitting".

It's been 15 years, and it's been too long. This is a Call to Arms for all FL gun owners who are sick and tired of being prohibited from certain places because of compromises made to make the law pass. No CCW holder in FL has unlawfully killed or inflicted injury to anyone in the schools, colleges, or universities. No CCW commited a crime using a weapon in a police station, or a courthouse, or a sporting event.

FL CCW holders have proven themselves to be more lawful than the rest of the general population.

What I'm proposing is a bill, called the "Concealed Weapons and Firearms License Reform Act". Now, it's not introduced legislation, but it is a bill that I've crafted with a meticulous eye on how a bill is introduced in the Florida Legislature. I've done everything possible to make it up to "state standard" when it comes to bill drafting. I'm not a professional, but I tried my best.

Here's a link:

http://home.tampabay.rr.com/glockfire/carrybill.rtf

We have a strong case. There is strong conservative majorities in both houses of the Legislature, along with Jeb Bush. There is no way it'll be introduced this year because the session has probably already started, but the 2003 session is a good starting point. It'll be after the elections of 2002 are done (no way is Janet Reno gonna be governor), and politicians are more willing to take on so called "risky issues". The problem was that I didn't have the internet back in 1998, and I wasn't even aware of the Firing Line Forums. Now that I am, I am hoping that fellow freedom fighters in Florida can help get something similar to this passed.

Please help me, and in the same way, help yourselves. :)
 

mgirard

New member
Ammendment to JacK Hagler Act

I'll make one change, allowing us to carry into airport terminals and pass this on to Constantine, a Pro-gun FL congressman.
 

LonWilson

New member
mgirard,

Federal law has that restriction, too. There's no point to removing it from the state statute.

Regards,

Glock
 

LonWilson

New member
Update: I spoke to Mike Girard about the situation. The bill that he's sending to a local senator has a slight modification: It removes the restriction on airports as well, but since the Federal government makes carry in those places a felony offense, a state misdemeanor charge makes no sense.

Girard is sending a letter to Sen. Constantine (R-9), who's based out of Altamonte Springs, I believe. If anyone lives in that district, contact him and see if he can get you an example letter for you to send to Senator Constantine.

Also, If anyone from the districts I named above with Stansel, Wallace, at all, please contact those Senators via phone, email, and such, and follow it up with a copy of the bill.

Also, if you know for a fact that any Representatives or Senators in your district are extremely pro-gun, and you know that they are willing to support this legislation, please do contact them with a copy of the bill draft. My suggested legislators are based on rather old data from the 1998 elections, and term limits threw out most of the old guard in 2000.

I'm also trying to get Gun Owners of America to take notice and put something into their website, but unfortunately I haven't had any luck, as the head person in charge of State/Local Legislation is constantly busy with meetings and phone calls (not that I blame him, he's dealing with multiple states that are having carry bills being considered).
 
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