Film Shows Japanese As Indonesia Liberators

beemerb

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From todays AZ Republic.I have to type it out as I can't find it on their site

A major Jalanese film distributor on Sat debuted a movie that critics say falsely suggests Japan helped liberate Indonesia from Dutch colonizers after WW 11.
Merdeka-"independence"in Indonesian-tells the story of 2,000 Japanese solders stationed on the Southeast Asian country who stayed behind after the war to aid local rebels in their struggle against the Dutch.
Distributor Toho's two-hour film,screened nationwide Saturday,portrays the Dutch as sadistic oppressors who revel in torturing their subjects.THe Japanese,meanwhile,sacrifice their lives for their Indonesian compatriots.

Looks like revisoinism is alive and well.
 

Munro Williams

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Don't get me started, beemerb...

Movies like this have been coming out about once every two years. I don't watch them, or even rent them from the local video shop. Others include "Pride," a movie which portrays Tojo as a war victim suffering "Victor's Justice," Minami Jujisei ("The Southern Cross"), which glosses over the Japanese mass-murder of 5,000 Chinese for "supporting" British colonialism, and from all reports, the worst, Dai Nippon Teikoku("The Great Japanese Empire") which has American soldiers playing football with human skulls while the Japanese Army is full of warmth and compassion for the locals.

Our Filipino RKBA brethren would disagree. When evacuating Manila, the Japanese went on a rampage, and were ordered to kill their Filipino wives, girlfriends, and children.

In contrast to these movies there is Nanking, which is the story of a Japanese doctor, his wife, and their adopted Chinese children trying to administer aid before running for their lives from the Japanese Army, which rounded up everyone and machine-gunned them in a large ravine, like at Babi Yar, in the Ukraine. This movie started riots when it opened over here.


They're all part of the perennial "poor, put-upon Japan" sentiment, which in Japanese comes out higaisha ishiki, literally, "victim conciousness."

There is a constant popular awareness, though, of Japanese atrocities. When a skeleton pit was discovered during an excavation in Tokyo, the Tokyo Metropolitan Police first reported it as a mass suicide site, until some old folks started to make noises about how Unit 731 had their headquarters on that very spot. It was the place where Chinese and other Allied POWs were experimented upon with anthrax, bubonic plague, vivisection without anesthetic, deep-freeze experiments, and often, macabre scientific questions like "Do Americans require more bayonet thrusts than British to kill them?"

These old Japanese folks cashed in their life savings and organized a 731 seminar, which toured the country, featuring old nurses, medical staff, and Kempeitai (Japanese military police) personnel, who often began public addresses with "I am a war criminal...," described their actions, and then cursed and damned the Japanese government for everything from not paying compensation to deliberately falsifying school history textbooks.

It's true that the Japanese were welcomed into Indonesia at the beginning of hostilities, but their welcome was rather shortlived.

Japan's wartime goals included something called the "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere," which would rid Asia forever of Western Imperialism. It required the development of the Japanese economy first, to secure Asia from Western predation, so that "Asia for the Asians" could be made reality. It was much like Soviet "Fortress of Socialism" economics. All satellite countries were stripped bare

Theoretically, East Asian countries had enough resources to support the Japanese economy, but not enough to support both Japan's and their own economies. Thus, the GEAC became a nightmare beyond the imagination beyond anyone reading this, unless they were held captive by the Japanese during the war. Japan coerced production out of her satellites while at the same time depriving them of the resources necessary for production. Millions starved and were slaughtered. "You can't have your cake and eat it too" is a lesson that is only now understood in theory by Japanese, and dismissed as Western indolence by Japanede bosses today who routinely require of themselves and their employees 60 and 72 hour work weeks.

Despite this, there are some countries, contemporary Burma, Malaysia, and large elements of Indonesia, who regard the West as The Enemy, the unknowable other.

It is probably a good thing that I do not rent these videos.
 

Bam Bam

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Monroe, would any of those movies be available with dubbing or subtitles in the US? What do you think of the idea that Japan will be a dependency of China in 40 years? Is the book "Rape of Nanking" available for sale in Japan? 60 years ago the Nips called their sex slaves "comfort women". Now they take sex tours of Thailand, etc. Not surprising the population is in decline. What self-respecting woman would marry men like that.

As a personal observation it seems that some societies have the same strains of self-pity and feelings of victimization at work in the social mentality of different pathologically aggressive groups. First the feelings of self-pity and inferiority build up, then the group explodes in violence because it is "surrounded by enemies".
 
Exactly why many are still pissed at Japan

The Japanese refuse to admit their own history and this has caused many folks, including POWs, Indonesians, Chinese, Philippinos to be pissed at them. Unlike the Germans, who admitted to the crimes committed during the Nazi rule and apologized, the Japanese never have.
 

Munro Williams

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I must stress that there are many Japanese who are incensed by the behavior of the Imperial Japanese Army during the war. Reread the post, especially about the 731 tour.

I find the terms "Nip" and "Jap" offensive. I'm trying to come up with suitable slang terms, similar to "Brit" or "Yank" for Japanese folks. "Subjugated corporate serf," or "poor overworked bastard" just aren't snappy enough though. Any thoughts?

As for American distribution of subtitled versions of Japanese "We Won the War But God Changed the History Books" movies, I really wouldn't know.
 

DorGunR

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Japan is trying to re-write history. Korea is furious over the history books now in Japanese schools that depict the Japanese as benevolent occupiers of Korea when in fact the Japanese were as ruthless as the German SS troops.
The Japanese occupied Korea for 37 years and killed thousands of civilians during this period.
And Now they want to re-write history?
The Japanese CAN NOT be trusted to tell the truth. :(
 

Oatka

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"Why did you only drop two?"

Whenever I run into these WWII revisionist types ("Nanking was just an 'incident'", etc.), I quote the above. When they ask what I'm talking about, I reply that if you ask anyone who suffered under Japanese occupation what they thought about us dropping the Bomb on Japan, that's the usual reply.

This book should be required reading in our high schools and colleges: PRISONERS OF THE JAPANESE (used book price list - give it time to load, OR check your library)

For those who have kids who waste food, there's an interesting quote in there on how one of the most valued jobs in the prison camps was to carry out the guard's "honey buckets". You could then "pan" (prisoner's words) the contents for undigested beans and/or rice kernels to supplement your "rations".

What really ticks me off is that we have Americans spouting this "Japan was a victim" crap.
 
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