cslinger said:
-said counter force usually results in surrender, suicide or retreat of bad / crazy personing mitigating The situation
Don't jump to conclusions.
In over 1/3 of the incidents (16 of 50), the shooter exchanged gunfire with police (14) or private armed citizens (2), albeit with overwhelmingly fatal results for the shooter. The report lists 11 shooters killed by LE and 3 suicides after LE arrived at the scene.
In 2 other incidents, a shooter was fired upon by an armed citizen or a security guard, did not return fire, and fled; however, in one of these instances, the shooter resumed shooting elsewhere. (In the other incident, he was apprehended by LE elsewhere without shots fired.)
In 1 incident, the shooter was confronted by an armed citizen, but shot that person and took him out of the fight before resuming fire at others.
While it's true that many
other incidents ended with the shooter surrendering to LE or armed citizens, it's clear that in a very substantial number of cases, the shooter doesn't give up and often returns fire. While the shooter committed suicide in a few such instances, this did not happen the
majority of the time.
Also, shooters who committed suicide with police on the scene (3) were substantially outnumbered by those who killed themselves on the scene
before police even arrived (8), or elsewhere (2). IOW most shooter suicides
were not directly influenced by actual counter-force.
cslinger said:
-most bad / crazy folks are looking for a killing field not a pitched battle/firefight
In most of the cases I discuss, the shooter wound up dead, so his original intent is a mystery; however, given the frequency, IMHO it's fair to assume that many of these shooters
probably anticipated dying in a gunfight.
FWIW I read a well-sourced news report about the July 2016 Dallas shooting, and based on police dialogue with the shooter, it's very clear IMHO that he intended to die in a hail of police gunfire while actively shooting back. He was killed by a bomb-carrying robot after barricading himself in a blind alcove that was impossible to approach without being exposed to return fire, and he explicitly told officers that he would shoot anyone who tried to approach him.
