Examining the link between video games and the so-called “Beltway Sniper”

Drizzt

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Examining the link between video games and the so-called “Beltway Sniper”

Scott McCollum
October 18, 2002



As of Thursday night, all the major cable TV news networks have ran some kind of story about how the so-called “Beltway Sniper” could possibly be a trained killer due to his violent video game addiction. Why is that “realistic” games about shooting bad guys like Counter-Strike can always be responsible for some crazy murderer with a gun, but “realistic” games like FIFA Soccer 2003 or Hooligans are never responsible for a European football riot?

In no way do I want to be the guy that says: “Aw, kids will be kids” after some stupid bratty nut takes a fake M-16 and shoots up his high school. I also don’t want to be the guy that says that listening to a heavy metal or rap song while playing a video game made the stupid bratty nut murder a bunch of classmates. I’m not going to justify that kind of horrible behavior the same way that I wouldn’t be so myopic as to run a story on my network’s nightly news program about how a video game containing a sniper rifle is directly attributable to teen violence but smear religious groups that protest the sex filled so-called “comedies” on their network as being a bunch of dopey fundamentalist prudes that are probably in need of some sex themselves. Why should TV news blame a video game or song after junior shoots up the lunchroom when it’s more than obvious that mom and stepdad #2 weren’t in the running for “Parent of the Year” award?

I want people to take a step back and logically look at the big picture for a minute when it comes to the fantasy of “shooter” video games and the reality of a cowardly murderer.

Can a murdering thug like the “Beltway Sniper” be trained to kill another human being with a rifle by playing Counter-Strike? Not really. For those unfamiliar with Counter-Strike, it is an extension of the popular Half-Life video game released around three years ago by Sierra/Vivendi-Universal Games. Counter-Strike was hailed as a new paradigm in computer gaming because of its “realism” in regards to physics and damage models: In other words, players in the game use “realistic” weapons found on the modern battlefield and are often killed by one shot from one of those weapons rather than using particle beam lasers and anti-gravity boots. In Counter-Strike, players take the role of either a terrorist or counter-terrorist force, divided into teams and given missions. Each side had to complete their mission in a certain amount of time or lose the round; counter-terrorists would have to rescue hostages while the terrorists defend the hostages, et cetera. Players are represented on screen as US Navy Seals or British Special Air Services counter-terrorist forces while terrorists are dressed in garb approximating the many militant groups of murderous fanatics around the globe.

It’s easy to see where TV network news-types can easily point the finger at Counter-Strike: Players can choose to be “terrorists” and a “realistic” sniper rifle is one of the weapons gamers use to achieve their team’s goals. However, there’s quite a difference between “realistic” gameplay on a video game by clicking a mouse and actually shouldering a sniper rifle. News readers for most TV network have often never held any type of gun in their lives and many are ardent advocates of disbanding the National Rifle Association. Few news readers have no idea the skill and determination needed to accurately sight in a target and pull the trigger on a deadly weapon. That’s tough. By contrast, many news readers know all about sitting on their rears and clicking the mouse button. That’s easy.

Playing a video game like Counter-Strike can develop keen hand-eye coordination through repetition, but you’re talking about mouse clicks here; not trigger pulling. Counter-Strike may be “realistic” in many ways, but it is also a game notorious for the plethora of cheats available to the give cheaters an advantage over their more scrupulous adversaries. Most Counter-Strike cheaters use “aimbots”; keystroke macros that automatically sight in the whites of the eyes of their opponents for a guaranteed kill from their onscreen sniper rifle every time. Cheaters are rampant in the online world of Counter-Strike, so much so that the makers of the game and third-party software developers have issued numerous bits of anti-cheat technology for the game in the past year. Yes, many of the people I’ve encountered online that play Counter-Strike are not very pleasant; they cheat, they are often rude, they swear, they are unrepentant about their behavior but that’s because they are playing against you from their homes in another city. Few would be so bold in the real world (say, sitting next to one of these louts in a game room), because after a minute or two of this a normal person would pull the bragging cheater out of his chair by his unwashed ponytails and punch his fat, geeky face in. Counter-Strike players are only hotshots when they’re on the Internet, not the real world. Also in the real world, a rifle is heavy, a scope can be unforgiving, a target can move suddenly and there are no such things as “aimbots.”

It’s easy for the TV networks’ newsrooms to take aim at video games because there’s a need to blame someone or something. Just in the past two weeks the world has seen numerous examples of international terrorism perpetrated by either Al Qaeda or Muslim extremists – the Bali blast, the French oil tanker bombing in Yemen, bombings in the Philippines and Israel, an American soldier murdered in Kuwait – but American reporters seem to have this strange block against even investigating the possibility of those groups being involved in the so-called “Beltway Sniper.” Amazing that few in the American TV news world will consider the Beltway Sniper as a possible Al Qaeda operative, but will immediately place the blame for nine murders on any American with a computer and a $30 copy of a video game.

http://www.worldtechtribune.com/worldtechtribune/asparticles/buzz/bz10182002.asp
 

spacemanspiff

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besides, my countless hours of playing a sniper on Medal Of Honor hasnt made me a violent killer yet. nor did the countless hours i spent playing Soldier of Fortune make me want to kill terrorists.
 

qkrthnu

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When playing Racing video games I enjoy driving as fast as possible and smashing into other cars, walls, trees, pedestrians, whatever. Shooting games are no different. It's a game and it's fun. :D
Doesn't mean I'll actually try that kind of behavior in real life though.
 

Camel

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Video games

Yeah thats right. I played Sonic 2 obsessivly a long time ago and I havnt gone rolling around stealing people's rings... yet. Counter-Strike and America's Army are 2 of favorite games and so far I havnt shot anyone or even attempted to.

I do however bunny hop down the street and crouch when I walk through doorways.
 

desert maus

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I went through this same thing when I lived 2 miles from Columbine HS when the shootings happened. The media wants an easy scapegoat, and video games are it. In the case of Columbine, they REALLY should have been looking at the lack of parental control, but that would've seemed un-PC, so they went after video games and music. The thing that bothered me about Columbine at least, was that I happened to listen to Rammstein and KMFDM, and BOTH bands published condolence letters on their websites (as did Marilyn Manson, of all people!) And both Rammstein and Manson voluntarily CANCELLED upcoming concerts in Denver, as a sign of respect to the victims. But the media NEVER said anything about the bands doing this.
And I find it interesting that millions of people play video games, often violent ones, who NEVER go on a rampage! Same with music. My personal belief is that if someone IS influenced by games or music in that way, they've already got mental problems.
That's just the leftist media for you, blaming those that are in "the limelight" because it's convienient and makes for better press. I find it amusing that liberals will tell people "don't spank your children" and call it child abuse, but when something like Columbine happens, they don't want to blame the parents for fear of looking callous and coldhearted.
And show me one person that's learned to shoot well from a video game! If the media actually bothered to shoot a gun instead of condemn them, they'd realise that it takes patience and practice, none of which a video game could possibly provide.
 

Hkmp5sd

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Bought my first PC in '84 and have been committing mass murder against those digital anti-social enemies of humanity ever since. Should be over 500,000 KIA by now. This does not include the legions killed playing D&D type games.

Ted Kennedy has still killed more humans than me, all of my guns, knives, swords and video games combined. Of course, that's one record I hope he can keep all to himself.
 

Waitone

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David Grossman (US Army Retired, LTC) IIRC teaches organization how to teach people to kill. He is a major opponent of video games. His belief is we are training an entire generation super sophisticate mass murderers. His comment is millions of children play Microsoft's Flight Simulator and a few become pilots. Millions of children play violent video games and a few will become killers.

I hear him make a comment to the effect that extreme vidoe games are murder simulators.


http://www.killology.com/
 

Tamara

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Waitone,

His comment is millions of children play Microsoft's Flight Simulator and a few become pilots. Millions of children play violent video games and a few will become killers.

...and millions of kids played cops and robbers and some grew up to be Bonnie & Clyde.

Strikes me as kind of a null point...
 

RogerC

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A few A-holes of Middle Eastern ancestry played Microsoft Flight Simulator and became mass murderers.
 

Silver Bullet

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The real entertainment is watching people's paranoia.
Well, let's see. Various states are suing gun manufacturers trying to run them out of business; various states are passing laws making it increasingly difficult to own or buy a gun; the media is trying to demonize gun owners by portraying them as under-educated red-neck psychos; commie groups like MMM and the Brady Bunch are working day and night to take away our gun rights; and now the government makes a deal with S&W that will give them a
stranglehold on the industry.

You think its paranoid to believe that we could lose our rights to keep and bear arms if we don't combat the enemy at every step ?

You don't have to look around you very far to see how much we've lost already. I can remember when Sears sold guns in its catalogs.

Actually, you gave yourself away when you said "Big Brother will not come take your guns" instead of "Big Brother will not come take our guns."
 

ronin308

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I listened to Grosman's audio tapes about surviving a violent encounter. When he started going off on video games he lost a bit of credibility. The rest of the tapes were informative though.
 

fignozzle

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Gotta disagree on this one...

Folks,

I'm with ya on most points, but I've got to dissent on this one about the first-person shooter games.

I thought it ludicrous in the 80's when Tipper started a move to ban Eevyil Rock Lyrics.
I don't want the Bradbury-esque Firemen coming to burn my copy of (insert controversial book title here).

But you know what? What you watch, and what you listen to...Input....it plants seeds.

If you have a steady diet of sucking chest wounds and enemy confrontations and automatic weapon fire, maybe 9996 out of ten thousand of us can play it, put it in perspective, and walk away.

What do we DO about the 4 who had the crap beat out of them by the alcoholic stepdad, who just got fired for the 19th time in 3 years, but who are MASTERFUL assassins in the first person shooter games? What if they can't find a solid reason NOT to 'Take it Live', and are messed up enough to go for it?

...or maybe they had GREAT childhoods, but just are unstable due to mental illness or major PMS or a recently ended relationship or WHATEVER????

When is it TOO much? Where do we draw the line?
What about child porn? Snuff flicks? Animal torture videos? Should there be realistic first person games for THOSE, too?


I don't have a good answer, 'cause I know our freedoms come with a price, but there needs to be a solid line somewhere between right and wrong.

This politically correct "tolerance" of diverse opinions automatically (and in my view, to society's detriment) labels anyone who stands up and says "THAT is WAY over the line" an intolerant, uneducated bigot.

I don't know the answer to fix it, but I think we need to set some limits.
 

ronin308

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fignozzle- That is the same logic that is used by gun grabbers. I'm not calling you an anti or trying to insult you, but just think about how that logic you are using is nearly identical to the antis' logic.
 

fignozzle

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ronin/Dan,

That is the same logic that is used by gun grabbers. I'm not calling you an anti or trying to insult you, but just think about how that logic you are using is nearly identical to the antis' logic.

That there needs to be a line between right and wrong? To set limits?
 

ronin308

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fignozzle- Call me Dan :) Anyways, the problem is that we can't restrict the freedom of 9996 responsible gamers just because of 4 *******s. In a similar notion, we can't restrict the freedom of 9996 responsible gunowners because of 4 *******s.
 

fignozzle

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Thanks Dan! I'm Ben, by the way.

Cognitive dissonance: when what I WANT to believe (based on my religious convictions) and what is evident and logical (what you are saying) are in direct conflict.

Will give thought to this. What you're saying sounds right.
 

Tamara

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Heh.

I was firing up my fuel-injected 345bhp keyboard to punch in a response, when I noticed that ronin308 beat me to it. Nice work, Dan. :)
 

ronin308

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Tamara- Alright...I suppose you can call me Dan too ;) :D I'm trying to avoid writing a paper for "Professional Writing" before I go to a night combat shoot this evening. I'd much rather preach the gospel of freedom instead of doing things for my dirty autocrat of a teacher ;)
 
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