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Navy joe

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http://www.pilotonline.com/news/nw0910cha.htmlAfter police pursuit, gunfire and standoff, man surrenders
By STEPHANIE MOJICA, The Virginian-Pilot
© September 10, 2001

CHESAPEAKE -- After holding three people against their will, leading authorities on a 15-mile pursuit and shooting at officers early Sunday, a 20-year-old Chesapeake man surrendered, police said.

The standoff began around 3:30 a.m. after Mitchell Thornhill, who was driving an acquaintance's van, reportedly shot at another vehicle on Hanbury Road, police spokesman Joe Price said. The victim followed Thornhill on Hanbury but backed off when police arrived.

As two officers tried to pull Thornhill over, he began to stop but then drove away, Price said.

Three other people, acquaintances of Thornhill's, were in the van during the pursuit. James Cartwright, 24, Jason Temple, 22, and Amber Broadhurst, 19, pleaded with Thornhill to stop, Price said.

During the pursuit, which continued throughout Great Bridge and into Deep Creek, Thornhill hit a parked car and drove toward an officer's car head-on in the wrong lane, Price said. The officer's vehicle ran off the road but avoided a collision.

Thornhill slowed the van at one point and told the three passengers that he would pull over and that they would have five seconds to get out.

They quickly exited after Thornhill stopped.

``They did not run and were clearly frightened,'' Price said. ``They cooperated fully and are being treated as victim witnesses, not accomplices.''

Thornhill continued north onto South George Washington Highway. In the 800 block, smoke began to pour from underneath the van, and it stalled around 4:30

a.m., Price said.

The suspect then pointed his gun, a black semiautomatic 9 mm, at his chin. Police demanded he drop the weapon, and when he did not, the three officers fired three ``bean bag'' shots at him, Price said. Such shots typically do not cause serious injury.

The shots hit Thornhill's stomach and shoulder, and he fired at the officers, Price said. They returned fire, this time with live rounds. No one was injured.

Thornhill ran around his van and once again held the gun to his head. He asked for cigarettes, a cellular phone and a hostage negotiator. A SWAT team was called in, and the standoff continued for four hours, Price said.

Around 9 a.m., Thornhill stood up and told officers, ``I'm done.''

He was transported to Chesapeake City Jail, where he was charged with three counts of abduction, one count of unauthorized use of a vehicle, attempted malicious wounding, and use of a firearm during the commission of a felony, Price said. More charges, including attempted capital murder, are expected, police said.

Reach Stephanie Mojica at 446-2536 or smojica@pilotonline.com


The nice part is nobody got hurt, I wish all arrests ended that way.

The not so nice part is that the less than lethal munitions really were much less than lethal.

QUOTE]The shots hit Thornhill's stomach and shoulder, and he fired at the officers, Price said. They returned fire, this time with live rounds. No one was injured. [/QUOTE]

The really not so nice part is all those bullets went somewhere, lucky sleeping in our homes us that it wasn't in our head. In spite of or maybe because of their piss-poor marksmanship the Chesapeake officers must have exercised a large amount of restraint in not shooting this idiot.
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Long Path

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Hmmmm... looks like one anecdotal story against bean bag rounds. Wonder what would have happened if they had been deployed against the arm holding the gun, and against his head...

Anyone used these things? Know if they're accurate enough to hit a head or a hand at 30 feet? I would guess that the arguement against head shots would be the heightened likelyhood of lethality through head trauma. What the heck; it was worth a shot, so long as there were ready officers with real rounds to back them up.

It is indeed troubling that their marksmanship was so poor. Once he began firing at them, the dude was "bought and paid for." Shots should have been hitting his C.O.M. about the time his first shot went off.

This is an excellent example of an appropriate time to utilize a Patrol Rifle. Hmmm... think I'll print this up for my chief. (we have no patrol rifle policy yet at our department. :( )
 

SKN

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LTL munitions

Accuracy is dependent on the type and construction of the munition, distance and delivery platform. All manufacturers admonish against deliberate shots to the head and this admonition is usually formalized as a prohibition in a department's policy for their deployment and a fundamental point in training in their use.
 
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