Crime stats from the UK

DC

Moderator Emeritus
Note how they get around firearm useage: they claim half aren't real guns LOL

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Press Association (UK)
27 December 1999
By Jo Butler
Armed Crime Rises By 10%


Armed crime rose by 10% last year according to figures which show a worrying
increase in the use of weapons by criminals.


During 1998, police recorded a total of 13,671 armed offences, up from 12,410
the year before.


But experts estimate that only around half the weapons used in armed
incidents are real.


Unless the guns are fired or recovered later by police, records are based on
descriptions from witnesses, who may be not be able to tell the difference
between a real weapon and an imitation firearm.


The figures also show that the number of armed robberies, which includes
muggings, raids on banks and shops, was down from 3,029 in 1997 to 2,843.


The Home Office figures, covering England and Wales, show that overall the
number of firearms licensed in the country fell by 3% in 1998 as the impact
of the tightening of gun laws in the wake of the Dunblane massacre in March
1996 continued to be felt.


Overall, 295,100 firearms were covered by certificates at the end of 1998,
compared with a peak of 418,300 in 1996 before the legislation took effect.


The number of registered firearms dealers dropped by 9% to 2,180.


Areas of the country with the highest number of certificated firearms are the
rural areas including Dyfed Powys, West Mercia, Gloucestershire, Wiltshire,
Devon and Cornwall, Cumbria, North Yorkshire, Lincolnshire, Suffolk, and
Norfolk.


Equally, inner city police areas-including Cleveland, West and South
Yorkshire, Nottinghamshire and the Metropolitan area- contain the lowest
number of certificated firearms.


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Karanas

New member
If a tree falls in the forest, and there's no one there to hear it, did it really make any noise?

If the weapon wasn't real, did a crime really occur?

Sorry love, the bloke was using a toy gun, so I guess you weren't really raped after all!
 

Jeff Thomas

New member
I am sometimes disappointed in myself for not having the intelligence to see something like this coming! It never occurred to me that people could actually make an argument that 'real' guns weren't used in some 'armed' crimes since they couldn't retrieve the actual firearm in order to confirm its authenticity.

I would love to read the 'expert' opinion and logic behind their estimation that only half are 'real'.

Hopefully, by the end of the day, I'll be able to quit shaking my head ... ;)
 

The Lone Ranger

New member
The comment that 50% of guns used are imitation stems from a 1993 Oxford University study. In a survey of convicted felons 50% said they HAD used an imitation firearm. Note this is now distorted to claim that 50% of crimes involve an imitation.

For those not familiar with the UK scene, since pistols have been banned imitation firearms have now become the new scapegoat for the police's inability to solve the problem of armed crime. Also targeted are air weapons and air soft guns. BTW street crime in the UK is now more prevalent than in the US.

Go figure.

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("A sword is never a killer, it's a tool in the killer's hands.") -
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Jimie

Moderator
Are not imitation or toy guns banned also?

When you outlaw toy guns, only outlaws will have toy guns


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I'm totin' this pistol because my SKS won't fit in my dang holster.
 

The Lone Ranger

New member
They're trying to ban toy guns, check out my web site.

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"Quemadmoeum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est."
("A sword is never a killer, it's a tool in the killer's hands.") -
Lucius Annaeus Seneca "the Younger" (ca. 4 BC-65 AD).
 
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