Congress to Outlaw Private Vitamin Sales

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defjon

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Hi everyone. My mom informed me of this today, and I couldn't believe it. Under this AER legislation, vitamens, herbal supplements, etc would be banned. They would have to be prescribed by a doctor. I couldn't believe this! In my view, another gross infringement and overstep by the government. It isn't too late though. The website listed below gives information for you to contact your representatives and show your disapproval of IL's Dick Durbin. This is a hot button issue for me, because I do take herbal supplements and, for me, they WORK like gangbusters. I usually always would get bronchitus over the winter, or the flu. I take certain anti-fungal supplements like oregano, and I've been the healthiest I've ever been in my life of for the last year or so.

The problem is that organic supplements and health food stores are a growing trend as people realize that diet and nature can provide a lot of help that sometimes doctor's can't. The FDA and the Pharmacutical companies don't make any money off these natural remedies. Even popular science is showing that antibiotics aren't the answer for everything. They kill all bacteria, even the helpful kind you can find in yogurt.

I'm a believer that most everything we as Human's need to survive and to heal ourselves is provided by God in nature. Sure, we likely obliterate a lot of the nature our God provided in the name of corporate gain- but I dare you to try out an oregano supplement for three months and tell me you don't feel a LOT better.

Anyway, I like this site, and I appreciate the time you've taken to read this thread. Scroll down, and on the website you'll find a way to contact your Reps, as well as the article in whole (I pasted it). But please, go on your own. If you take vitamens at all, or if you value your FREEDOM TO CHOOSE to take vitamens, then please make yourself heard. I am of a mind that I may choose for myself my own standards of health care. I'll be damned if Big Brother says I can't go uptown and buy a bottle of Vitamen C pills before Cold and Flu season starts without paying out the butt for a doctor's prescription.

The bottom line? It's about Money, as always.

Let's make ourselves heard and not allow this overstep. Again, thanks for your time. Please go to the website listed below for more information.

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http://www.nha2006.com/



Pending Bills in Congress Could Take Away Your Health Care Rights to Buy Vitamins and Herbs
NUTRITIONAL HEALTH ALLIANCE ACTIVATED AGAIN TO PROTECT DSHEA

Act Now or Kiss Your Supplements Goodbye Forever
Senator Durbin?s damaging bill could be days away from passage!!

Within days, Senator Dick Durbin will reintroduce the Adverse Event Reporting legislation that will destroy supplements and health freedom. Surprisingly, some supplement industry groups are ready to concede and give up the fight for health freedom.

Is there any more self-defeating philosophy than ?the devil that you know is better than the devil that you don?t know?? This phrase implies that accepting a bad situation is wise?because things could always get worse. Why would anyone want to live with such a negative outlook?

As certain supplement industry groups adopt this philosophy in their stance on non-causal Adverse Event Reporting (AER), this Congressional bill becomes even more dangerous. Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) may be presenting this bill any day now. Industry groups capitulate and accept defeat by reasoning that, ?If we don?t accept the current non-causal AER bill, Durbin will come up with a bill that?s even more damaging. So we might as well just accept AER.?

Worst Case Scenario

These misguided souls are missing the entire point: non-causal AER will destroy health freedom and the nutritional supplement industry in one fell swoop! What could be more damaging than that? Under AER, dietary supplements can be associated with adverse events like heart attacks and strokes?even if supplements had nothing to do with, and did not cause, these events. In our frustrating age of frivolous lawsuits, the result is predictable: Joe Smith suffers a stroke and sues the manufacturer of the vitamin C he takes every day. The floodgates open wide and the entire nutritional supplement industry is buried under groundless lawsuits.

The industry will be further buried under the paperwork required to record and organize the millions of adverse events that may be associated with supplements under AER. Always the first to shirk responsibility and flee at the first sign of trouble, the insurance industry will drop all coverage for supplement manufacturers. Mom-and-pop health food stores will close their doors forever, and supplement makers will dissolve into nothing. Thousands will lose their livelihood, millions will lose good health and all will lose health freedom.

It is hard to imagine a scenario worse than this nightmare, which makes it all the more puzzling that certain supplement organizations are willing to agree to AER?just in case fighting it brings a worse fate. Can you imagine what America would be like if it operated under this weak-minded ?devil that you know? mentality? Perhaps there would have been no American Revolution, just in case the new regime was more oppressive than the old. Perhaps women would not have fought for equal rights, and minorities would not have fought for civil liberties, just in case they were defeated and faced a harsher future. Such complacency would have destroyed the foundation of our very nation?just as it will destroy our health freedom!

Fight for Freedom

Non-causal AER is a catastrophic threat we must face now. Don?t let Dick Durbin take your vitamins away: Send a fax today, and send another tomorrow! Fax Durbin at 202-228-0400, and tell him you are outraged at his efforts to implement non-causal AER. Fax key vitamin players in Congress, Senators Tom Harkin at 202-224-9369 and Orrin Hatch at 202-224-6331. Let them know that they will go down in history as traitors to the nutritional supplement industry?and to you, the health-minded consumer?if they continue supporting non-causal AER. Fax Senator Michael Enzi, Chairman of the Senate Subcommittee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions, at 202-228-0359. Tell him that you demand the freedom to take nutritional supplements
 

Jguy101

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I think I first heard about this idea a few years ago. Maybe Durbin's finally getting it through....

I definately don't wanna see it. Oregano kills viruses, and I don't want to have to cook up some reason to get it when there's a bird flu outbreak if some doctor doesn't believe me.
 

Rivers

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....and the cure for cancer, Alzheimer's, etc., etc., will be found in the bowels of a chiropractor's research lab. Gimme a break! Next time you get a virus, snort a little oregano and give yourself a shot in the butt with B-12!

God gave us the brains to do research and to learn to spell "vitamins". :)

calmbutalsoskepticalrivers
 

OBIWAN

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When vitamins are outlawed

Only outlaws will have vitamins:D

Evidently, the "masses" cannot be trusted to make even the most basic of choices
 

defjon

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Wild, go to the site I referenced for more information. But yes, vitamins and all supplements would be impossible to get without a doctor's RX.

And Rivers, your comment would have been clever and sarcastic, if only you had been insightfully quick witted enough to notice that in my post immediately following the first post, I noticed my typo!

Here, let me reference it since it slipped past you the first time.


Yesterday 07:27 PM
defjon Vitamin^


There you are.

And yes, from personal experience, you can beat the cold and flu season with appropriate vitamins and supplements. Here, one more time for you v-i-t-a-m-i-n-s.
 

Wildalaska

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Wild, go to the site I referenced for more information. But yes, vitamins and all supplements would be impossible to get without a doctor's RX.

Ive been on the site it says nothing. its your thread, post the language that would ban my Flintstone Kids Multis

WildchewyyummyAlaska
 

Edward429451

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They've been trying this for awhile now. The only increment they've managed to do so far is make it so the herbal supplement guys can not say XXX cures XXX. They've made it a precept of law that inly medicine can cure anything.

No I don't have any reference for you skeptics. Look it up yourself.:p

I've read a lot of the herbal stuff in lots of different books and I don't remember what was where.

I do know that scientists have analyzed the different compounds in different herbs, veggies and folk remedies and found that most all of the folk remedies do work. Chicken soup for example for a cold.

Much of that info is in that Perscription for Nutritional Healing book, and is a must have for anyone even mildly interested in this stuff.
 

Cowled_Wolfe

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From the info on the site, it looks more like a bunch of ephedra addicts PMSing about their supply... (Ok, that was mildly sarcastic -- but I digress...)

As for the content of the bills they showed, it looked like nearly every other bill I've ever read -- a bunch of number and legaleese... Though in the language of the bills, I couldn't interpret anything alarming or even threatening.

If someone got a nickel for every political action site like that, I bet they'd be rich enough to run for office and try passing bills of their own.

Wolfe.
 

Wildalaska

Moderator
Wild, you're knee jerkin with no knowledge to stand on, and I'm not going to do your homework for you.

I'll take that to mean there is no basis for this Chicken Little Thread then......:)

WildofftothenextdastardlyplotAlaska
 

Al Norris

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I went to the website linked in the originating post. I'll admit, I didn't look beyond that page. It mentions something about, "non-causal Adverse Event Reporting," but doesn't define it, nor does it menion the Bill itself.

If the article cannot mention the name of the bill or its congressional number, then I can't look it up (Thomas is funny that way). If the main article (the linked page) can't supply that info without my digging further, then I won't waste my time.

When and if Senator Durbin decides to introduce this bill and we can actually read the bill, then we can have a meaningful discussion as to the merits (if any) of the Bill.

Until that time, this thread is at best conjecture and at worst mere supposition and hand-wringing. Someone can open a new thread on this subject when the text of the bill becomes available. In the meantime, this thread is done.

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