Close Quarters Combat Gear for our Troops?
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In WWI, it was determined in the trenches that an e-tool made an excellent close combat weapon. The Russkis took that lesson seriously enough that their special forces were/are trained in the combative use of the shovel. So, I suppose it would be a step forward to replace the tri-fold shovel our troops are issued with something a little more suited to bashing an enemy soldier's brains out. We'd also have to spend some time training them in use of the same, of course.
A soldier can carry any knife he wants. I carried a Chris Reeves shadow 2 in the Army. I got it to replace the Randall I lost on a night jump. I chose the Chris Reeves because it is a hollow handle design but made from 1 piece of steel(no weakness between the tang & handle). The handle storage isn't for fishhooks,matches ETC. Its for amphetamines to keep you going to get to friendly lines if it got so bad that you needed to open it(no time for fishing or fires). The current issue e tool is used as a weapon with the shovel locked in the hoe position & sharpened. I remember it was taught in the hand to hand phase of Recondo/Raider school. The most common knife carried by troops was the ole Kabar.
An older Seabee told me that a compact .357 saved his ass in vietnam, on the way back from the head one night when he left his rifle behind.
If I get sent anywhere really interesting in the coming fight I'll be taking a small backup piece, maybe a kel-tec 9mm. Something reliable, but cheap since I may have to leave it behind.
If I get sent anywhere really interesting in the coming fight I'll be taking a small backup piece, maybe a kel-tec 9mm. Something reliable, but cheap since I may have to leave it behind.
CQB gear
G'day from Australia
You guys ever seen a Pesketh tool - a cunning little bit of kit developed by the Brits in WW2?
In one handy little tool, you have a combat knife, a knuckle duster, a yawara stick and a garotte - all from the same folks that gave you the Fairbairn Sykes commando dagger and swing wing fighter, showed you how to kill somebody with a box of matches or a haircomb and how to make a bomb out of over-ripe bananas.
where do you get it/ No idea - but it'd be easy to make for anyone with a decent lathe or milling machine.
Sifu Davo
G'day from Australia
You guys ever seen a Pesketh tool - a cunning little bit of kit developed by the Brits in WW2?
In one handy little tool, you have a combat knife, a knuckle duster, a yawara stick and a garotte - all from the same folks that gave you the Fairbairn Sykes commando dagger and swing wing fighter, showed you how to kill somebody with a box of matches or a haircomb and how to make a bomb out of over-ripe bananas.
where do you get it/ No idea - but it'd be easy to make for anyone with a decent lathe or milling machine.
Sifu Davo
Ronin:
You got me!
Just a thought, I'd like to see the Marine Corp authorize a 12-series FMFRP for Musashi's Book of Five Rings. The 12-series are "works of historical significance" that are not "current doctrine" but are useful, etc,etc. They've released 12-series of Kill or Get Killed by Applegate, Shooting to Live With the One hand Gun by Fairburn and I think they have released The Art of War, also.
They should also collect some of John Boyd's presentations and release those as an FMFRP, since they do acknowledge the influence his work has had on doctrine.
Be advised, the foregoing rambling was induced by a far to tasty BBQ sandwich at lunch. I think I'll go vegetate, now.
You got me!
Just a thought, I'd like to see the Marine Corp authorize a 12-series FMFRP for Musashi's Book of Five Rings. The 12-series are "works of historical significance" that are not "current doctrine" but are useful, etc,etc. They've released 12-series of Kill or Get Killed by Applegate, Shooting to Live With the One hand Gun by Fairburn and I think they have released The Art of War, also.
They should also collect some of John Boyd's presentations and release those as an FMFRP, since they do acknowledge the influence his work has had on doctrine.
Be advised, the foregoing rambling was induced by a far to tasty BBQ sandwich at lunch. I think I'll go vegetate, now.
dcrook,
Which fighter would that be? Not the F-111?
I and one other soldier in my company carry kukuris. Interestingly enough, just last night I was out on a mortar live fire, and mentioned that it would be great if I could get our CO to sign off on my carry of a FN-FAL (after all, it's a round that we have in inventory). About that time, the CO walked up.
I mentioned that I was hoping I could authorization to carry my personal rifle. He said, "What, like an Winchester?"
I said, "No, it's a .308 autoloader."
"Sometimes you scare me, Shirley."
"Thank you, sir."
Which fighter would that be? Not the F-111?
I and one other soldier in my company carry kukuris. Interestingly enough, just last night I was out on a mortar live fire, and mentioned that it would be great if I could get our CO to sign off on my carry of a FN-FAL (after all, it's a round that we have in inventory). About that time, the CO walked up.
I mentioned that I was hoping I could authorization to carry my personal rifle. He said, "What, like an Winchester?"
I said, "No, it's a .308 autoloader."
"Sometimes you scare me, Shirley."
"Thank you, sir."