Citibank backs down due to bad press

Darryl Howland

New member
Citibank kills
firearms policy
Gun businesses to be treated
like others, says spokesman


By Jon E. Dougherty
© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com
After intense public pressure and a threatened
boycott, following a series of WorldNetDaily
reports exposing Citibank's practice of denying banking services to firearms business, the global financial giant has now reversed its "longstanding" policy.

Yesterday, Mark Rodgers, a public relations
specialist for the New York-based
mega-banking firm told WND the corporation
"went out and looked at our policies across (all Citibank branches) and found that (they) were inconsistent."

After reviewing several policy "areas," Rodgerssaid, "we decided we must have uniform
policies across the U.S." Consequently, he said, Citibank "decided that moving forward the practice of assessing a small business account will apply uniformly in small businesses," including those "engaged in the manufacture or sale of small firearms."

Rodgers said the firm would rate firearms
businesses "the same as any other small
business, using the same standards such as
creditworthiness, the number of years in
business, and so on."

Rodgers faxed a confirmation copy of the new
policy to WorldNetDaily.

The policy reversal comes on the heels of a
controversy that began Feb. 7, when a Las Vegas
branch of Citibank closed a three-day-old
checking account opened by the Nevada Pistol
Academy, a local shooting club. At that time,
local area branch managers told the academy's
director, Chris Lorenzo, in a letter, "Due to
Citibank not maintaining accounts for
businesses that deal in weapons," the account would have to be closed.

Lorenzo, who spoke with WorldNetDaily after
the closure, said that while the corporate
banking giant was "free to do business with
whomever they choose," he also felt it was
important to let other gun-business owners
"know where they stand."

Lorenzo could not be reached for comment
Monday.

However, the Second Amendment Foundation,
a Washington state-based pro-gun group, is
calling the decision a "sweet victory for all
law-abiding gun owners." The group had called
for a nationwide boycott of Citibank because of the policy.

Alan Gottlieb, the group's founder, said the
decision "ends more than a decade of silent
discrimination" against lawfully licensed
firearms-related businesses.

"I couldn't be more pleased," Gottlieb said.

In the early 1980s, Rodgers said, Citibank began buying a large number of independent banks all over the country, noting, "for many years, they operated pretty much independently, with their
own policies, services and products."

In the past few years, he said, "we've been
bringing those together so that we are consistent
and uniform across the business units and
geography" at all Citibank branches.

What the treatment of the Nevada Pistol
Academy proved, Rodgers said, "is that we had an inconsistency in the policy in business units, so we moved to bring those together so that they were in agreement."

On Feb. 24, WND reported a major
inconsistency in Citibank's policy in that the firm conducts business with and has close
corporate ties to major military contractors that produce jet fighters and other defense
equipment, while refusing -- until now -- to offer services to small gun businesses.
 

Ben

New member
I wonder if shooters should REWARD Citibank by reopening their accounts or take a stand and keep their accounts closed.

What does every one think former-Citibank shooters should do? Should they be congradulated or punished?

Thanx,
Ben

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Emin

New member
I've closed both of my accounts and won't ever have a second thought of reopening any. Screw them!!!
 

Bud Helms

Senior Member
I don't know.

We showed them our displeasure. Now maybe we should show our pleasure. It's behavioral modification, guys.
 

Christopher II

New member
They did something bad to us, we did something bad to them. I'd wait until they did something GOOD for us, before swarming back. Half a million bucks to the NRA/GOA/JPFO/SAF would do the trick for me.

Later,
Chris
 

Oatka

New member
When K-Mart rolled on Rosie, I wrote them and said it didn't matter -- I wasn't coming back. The same ought to apply to Citibank and let them know that you're staying away.

Make ANY anti-gun move the Third Rail of retailing/banking/ etc. The word should be
"Leave the anti-gun agenda out of business --
look what happened to K-Mart and Citicorp when they messed with their gun-owning constituency -- they permanently lost business."

Otherwise, what do these companies risk? If they go anti-gun and there is a backlash, all they have to say is "oops" and all is well -- they have lost nothing in the attempt. If there is no backlash, or it's not loud enough, there's just another nail in our coffin. Besides, there's lots of competition, so why not give your trade to someone who is at pro-gun or at least neutral?

Make 'em bleed when they pull this crap --
then they won't try to "make a statement" at our expense.

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Herodotus

New member
I agree with Christopher II:
We have no reason to shun them now, but no particular reason to favor them either.
 

George Hill

Staff Alumnus
Another bank was more than pleased to transfer my account balances.
Just because they realized they could be sued and are probably being sued already for discrimination - and change there mind - is no reason to reopen accounts there.
They remain anti-gun and would continue such behavior if they could get away with it.

Citibank can bite me. They lost my funds. I aint going back. I also had a hunk of Citibank stocks that I traded for some stock in NOK - and that made me a good hunk of change - well, untill yesterdays plunge, but that will recover in short order.

Oh - Nokia phones... Awesome... Check out Nokia.com and look at some of the cool stuff they got. When that stuff comes over to the US in strength - HUGE GROWTH for those guys... Just my 2 cents... :D
 

DOCSpanky

New member
I called the regional customer service manager who sent me a copy of the letter renigging the anti-gun policy and asked me to continue to do buisness with them. Me and the 32 others who sent a joint letter closing our accounts, sent a curt and professional thanks-but-no thanks letter back!

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Happiness is a smoking gun and a dead criminal;)
 

LongDuck

New member
Good for you, guys!

Thank you for making a stand against Citibank by NOT taking your business back to them after their 'fall'.

I get actively involved in boycotts and take this stuff seriously, as do lurkers on this board. It's nice to see that you (I didn't bank at Citicorp, prefer credit unions) were able to make a difference, and that they took notice.

Keep up the work for RKBA by making this one a prominent point in their financial history and other anti-gun companies will think twice before accepting the liberal slant.

I applaud you,
 

jimmy

New member
Maybe Citibank's reversal will be a lesson to other know-nothings who might be inclined to make the same mistake. At least, I hope so.
 

sbryce

New member
If you just wait a bit, and wait a bit more, you'll have formed a new habit of dealing with a different financial institution and wouldn't even think of going back.

I did this with K-Mart with the big boycott a few years ago due to K-Mart Corp's ownership of Waldenbooks--which was the largest distributor of soft-core porn. K-Mart ended up finally selling Waldenbooks. The boycott went on several years, and, though I have a K-Mart a bit closer to me than Wal-Mart, I simply never think of going to K-Mart.

And then when I was looking for a shotgun, I made an *effort* to go to K-Mart, and their display was puny and no one was there to help me.

Former Citibank customers: just wait. And wait a bit more. The you'll have made the decision. :)

--Denise
 

Numbers

New member
I totally agree with all the actions taken, in particular those who use my favorite form of expressing displeasure with a business:
I express my outrage with my pocketbook.

'cause when you think about, that's the only real way to send a statement with impact. Letter writing is important, but voting with one's pocketbook hits where they are the most sensitive, the bottom line.

Joe
 
I agree with others here that the Citibank policy change in and of itself is no reason to start or resume trading with them. Remember, the human(s) that developed and implemented the policy are probably still employed there.

I'd consider trading with Citibank when and if they make some sort of pro-RKBA policy, make a donation to an RKBA organizatiion, et cetera.

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