Chicago police: August homicides highest in 20 years

[FITASC]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CHICAGO_VIOLENCE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Chicago saw its deadliest month in two decades in August, recording 90 homicides for the month, the city's police department said Thursday.

Damn best gun control methods truly work

Chicago is on pace to have more than 700 homicides by the end of the year. The city hasn't had more than 600 homicides in a year since 2003, and not more than 700 since 1998, according to records

And yet, those particular groups we can't mention here are silent. A true shame the way the Left has destroyed this country.

(Sorry for the rant)

 

[Targa]

And it's only going to get worse.

 

[Old Bill Dibble]

http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2016/08/chicago-rapper-king-yella-shot-camera-shooting-video/

I don't know what the world is coming to. They can't even make a video protesting police killings without getting shot at by the people doing all the murdering.


http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/blog/chicago-75-murdered-are-black-71-murderers-are-black

One of the best break downs of the numbers I have seen (some PG13 language at link):

http://heyjackass.com/

Of the 482 homicides so far this year so far 6 (1.25%) have been killed by the police.

 

[TXAZ]

Here's a further tragedy pointed out by the Sun Times: Chicago PD, under the leadership of (former) Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy, set a standard to exclude murder statistics rhat occurred on roads & right of ways inside the city that were state or federal roads, making Chicago look better.

If lying to a cop is a misdemeanor and lying to a grand jury a felony, shouldn't lying to the American people be a capital offense?

 

[Tom Servo]

The situation in Chicago is an ongoing tragedy. There are many factors, including numerous failed social policies, demographics, police tactics and training, and just plain money.

It's a complex problem, and it can't be boiled down to one failed policy or ineffective law. Nor can we blame one person or political bloc for it.

 

[Old Bill Dibble]

I suppose, however it would be tough to blame those who have not been in charge in three generations.

 

[lamarw]

It is not just Chicago; although Chicago is a prime example.

Here is something else I just came across today. I think, if nothing else, there is at least some truth to it:

https://www.prageru.com/courses/race-relations/are-police-racist

I do feel bad for some of the decent people in these communities.

There are even shopping malls across the country that close down once they become lawless and new malls open in a different location. Eventually, the old malls are just abandoned.

 

[JERRYS.]

no popular outside force will change Chicago. the change has to come from the neighborhood residents before anything else will matter.

 

[kkb]

Here's another site that has a fairly comprehensive statistics presentation. Be advised: Contains strong language.

http://heyjackass.com/

 

[K_Mac]

no popular outside force will change Chicago. the change has to come from the neighborhood residents before anything else will matter.

It is in large part government that has created this situation, and it will not be fixed only by the people living there. We could stop it if we really wanted to. It is easier to blame violence on people who know nothing else. It will be fixed by putting boots on the ground and developing trust. That's not going to be popular with politicians whose only real priority is reelection. It is far easier blame guns, or drugs, or race...

 

[Tom Servo]

Here's another site that has a fairly comprehensive statistics presentation.

Despite the humorous presentation (a Shot-in-the-Junk-O-Meter!), that guy does some solid work. It highlights what a rolling tragedy the situation is.

the change has to come from the neighborhood residents before anything else will matter.

The problem is, the residents live in fear of the gangs. People are killed for being involved. People are killed for refusing to be involved. People are killed for suspicion of being involved with the wrong faction. People are killed for being related to someone in the wrong faction. People are killed by stray bullets walking in the park.

It's not as if one guy on the street has a bad kid. It's a whole established network of bad kids, and one that's become entrenched over the course of decades. The problem runs far too deep to have any single solution.

 

[doofus47]

Tom Servo

It's a complex problem, and it can't be boiled down to one failed policy or ineffective law. Nor can we blame one person or political bloc for it.

I think that sums it up. People on both party lines talk about getting to the "cause" of criminal gun violence and both groups willingly fail to recognize that there are multiple issues at work. As with the federal deficit, once you let something slide into a hole, it often takes a long time and a lot of different changes to reverse the slide.

I don't think that people in the affected neighborhoods don't want things to change, but I think that the scope and number of forces against them make it an uphill battle.