Call their bluff.....

Bubba

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It's time to call their bluff.
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Copyright 1999 by Bryan Potratz
e-mail: bpotratz@gonzaga.edu

Der Schlik Meister, in an interview with ABC's "Good Morning America", once again voiced the anti-gun mantra of "why don't we treat guns like cars..." and this time I think we in the pro gun community should take heed. I mean this only half heartedly. Really.

Liberal in Chief Billy Bob said, "Should people ought to have to register guns like they register their cars? Do I think that? Of Course I do..."

Hello! We have been given an absolutely splendid opportunity to stand up to the anti-freedom crowd and CALL THEIR BLUFF. We should take them up on their leader's offer (especially since it will only get shot down) and show the world once and for all how meaningless (and un-thought-out)their
anti-gun talking points are.

Let's look at their "Guns = Cars" proposal not as another rights infringement, but (potentially) as a liberalization of the already oppressive gun control system and turn it back in their face. How so?
Examine what Driver's licensing & vehicle registration truly entails.

At this point, it is important to point out we would like to see a Vermont Style Carry as found at http://www.goa-texas.org/ccw_verm.htm for we know a Right regulated is a Right denied. But it sure would be fun to throw this in their face and watch them be forced to dump one of their longest standing talking points. I am sure some of you could add to this list of "goodies", so here goes:


Licenses.

1: Drivers Licenses are Shall Issue permits with universal reciprocity, requiring only a basic knowledge of safe handling and use regulations.
2: Licenses are NOT required for purchase of a vehicle.
3: Licenses are NOT required for off (public) road use, i.e. agricultural use (farms/farm roads), racetracks, private land, USFS/BIA/BLM dirt trails etc.

Registration:

1: Registration of a motor vehicle is NOT required unless said vehicle is to be USED on public roads. Custom/show cars, race cars, farm equipment, antiques are exempt unless they are to be commonly USED on public roadways. If I am towing a '32 roadster (or '99 dragster) through town, I cannot be cited for its lack of registration.

2: Registration of vehicles exceeding "fleet" quantities is not required.
I may maintain as many unregistered vehicles on my private property as I desire (provided they do not constitute an "eyesore" or some such other visibly property-devaluing neighborhood gripe.)

3: Registration and extra taxation of High Performance vehicles is NOT required, unless they are to be used on public roads. A 13,000 hp Pratt & Whitney Jet Car (which has no "practical" or "sporting" use) may be owned and kept, unregistered, alongside a VW powered off-road-only dune buggy, and
used in non-public spaces with impunity.

Law enforcement of DMV rules:

As we know, there are literally thousands of people out there driving without a license. The only time they get punished is if they are caught violating some other driving law. Vehicle registration is somewhat easier
to spot, as registration is denoted by a sticker of some sort, visible while the vehicle is in use. (Someone sees you use it without a tag, you get a ticket.)

This is all well understood and simple enough, so, let's apply this legal paradigm to guns, on a national level, as the panderer in chief (and others) say they want.

Licenses: Gun owners would "get":

1: A genuinely nationally reciprocal, truly "shall-issue" concealed carry license. Now, while everyone hates DoL and the Licensing dept., you can't say they just arbitrarily deny licenses (as some "authorizing agencies" for CCW permits have done.) only a basic knowledge of safe handling and use regulations.

2: Licenses would NOT be required for purchase of a gun.

3: Licenses would NOT be required for non-urban public land use, i.e. agricultural use (hunting/varmint control), ranges, private land, USFS/BIA/BLM hunting areas etc.

"Registration" DMV style Gun owners would "get::

1: A Licensing & registration system that is useful (to the government) only after the fact, i.e. after the shooting stops.

Registration of a firearm would NOT be required unless said firearm is to be
USED in a public place. Custom/show guns, race-guns, long-arms or side arms, antiques, etc. would be exempt unless they are to be commonly USED in public.

2: A DMV style registration system would deny "arsenal" registration rhetoric just as it currently does not apply to off-road "fleets".

3: Removal of the GCA provisions against Class III (high performance/specialized) weapons. If guns were to be treated as cars, the substantial similarity rules would apply. Just as "High Performance" or specialty vehicles are not restricted, except in their place of use (not on public
roads), neither then could the law be justified in restricting the possession of "high performance" (Class III) firearms.

Law Enforcement:

Like Cars, so Guns. It can be truthfully stated that a gun in my possession, regardless of type, in a public place, is NOT being USED, only carried (just like towing my dragster), and therefore it need not be registered nor I licensed. However, should I use that firearm in said
public place without L&R, I may be subject to penalty upon the assured following inquest... (to be judged by twelve) perhaps.

Herein we see another potential benefit to "DMV style" laws...the principle of reasonable justification and good-Samaritan laws. I may speed, drive an unregistered car, drive without a license, etc. in the commission of a life saving act. Judges and juries routinely throw out charges (if charges are even filed) of "rule violation" in such cases. Similar dismissals have
obtained (and will continue to obtain) for many "rule violations" of current gun laws. Criminals would obviously receive no such benefit.

Admittedly, this "DMV-ing" argument plays into the Rights vs. Privileges debate, however, it has similarly been argued (with some precedent setting success) that auto ownership has grown from a privilege to a Right within today's society. If auto ownership is now a Right (guaranteed nowhere) then how much more so is gun ownership?

A dose of Reality:

You and I know that a "best-case" writing of a "motor-vehicle" style of registration/licensing scheme would never be allowed, for precisely the benefits I've mentioned. That's probably a good thing. A Right regulated is a Right denied. But it sure would be fun to throw it in their face and watch them be forced to dump one of their longest standing talking points.

Oh well.

Fight the good fight & keep your powder dry.

Bryan Potratz armed student, political strategist and philosopher.
 

HankL

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Well put but keeping and bearing arms is a
"RIGHT" vehicles are legislated to be a consumer commodity that can be regulated.
Now think about "keeping and arming bears"
Hank
 

Paul Revere

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Excuse me folks. Has everybody bought into the licensing, registration, taxation, toll, and levy scheme??

The sole purpose of these things is revenue! How else could huge government bureacracies exist? They have a revenue justification continuum. That is, in order to continue to exist they require a source of funds, much like the perverbial vampire looking for sources of fresh blood. Continued and larger sources of revenues creates larger and more intrusive government, and therefore more regulations in which to collect these revenues.

There is no doubt that the Clinton Administration's agenda to register firearms is just a ploy to disarm Americans. But look in every single piece of his offered legislation and you'll find 1) An increase in funding for BATF, and 2) Open ended opportunities for new taxation. In order to ultimately have the manpower to initiate confiscation, one would require not only a larger more intrusive bureacracy, but a fresh, growing source of revenue in which to feed it.

Confiscation of automobiles for violations of various vehicular/traffic/non-compliance bureacratic regulations is becoming commonplace today. In Illinois, they have passed some new regulation giving the police the ability to confiscate autos caught transporting 4th of July fireworks. In many instances, especially drunk driving cases, the vehicles are sold in auction to perpetuate the revenue life source of the bureacracy.

Who says they're only interested in eliminating our 2nd Amendment rights?
 
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