Buid me a stock? less recoil...

[hogdogs]

From michelin and this site i bring ya'll the future of gun stocks that would drastically reduce felt recoil...
http://www.fastcoolcars.com/airless-tires.htm
I am but a simple redneck but I see potential here... Build a regular shaped stock that uses this technology... hollowed out and everything I bet it would sell like mad! I would have one in a heartbeat!
Brent

 

[zippy13]

Hey Brent,
I'm not ready for a new Michlelin Man looking like he just arrived from Mogadishu.
Z

 

[BigJimP]

Interesting Brent - but the wheel profile in the wheel well ..... just doesn't look that cool ..... ( and since my eyes have let me down, I can't shoot, so I have to look cool .....).

 

[hogdogs]

I bet a few of us would fall to the ground forgetting the nice walnut clothed gun in our hands to laugh our selves to tears if a guy showed up with a stock made like that...
On the other hand... I would love to be plinkin' with 3 inch heavy slugs and have a guy laugh at me with a nice classy field gun and hand him a box of the same and challenge to drop 25 into that there target over there....
I just think with the technology we have today they could really shave off the wallop a ton!
Brent

 

[BigJimP]

I understand your point ..

but the tehnology on Benelli's Comfort Tech stock is pretty cool

to say nothing of the JS Air cushion stocks, the Gra Coil etc
( the Gra-Coil on one of my trap guns ( the bottom one in photo) is pretty soft shooting too ..)

 

[hogdogs]

While I did see the gra-coil... it was hard as the wood it is on is absolutely STUNNING
Brent

 

[BigJimP]

Thanks its a very nice gun. It's a Browning XT - 32" barrels / bought it used about a year ago for about $ 2,300. Its a great piece of Turkish Walnut - kind of sad that somebody got tired of it or needed the money / sold it to a local pawn shop - and the owner offered it to me for what I thought was a steal. My other Browning XT is above it / its a nice gun as well. I'm more of a Skeet shooter than a Trap shooter - but I like shooting both of these XT's for Trap / and I enjoy both guns.

Here's a couple of photos of both sides ... the forend is outrageously figured as well / and matches very nicely.

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[hogdogs]

That is true gun porn fer shure!
Brent

 

[BigJimP]

Thanks - its only a shotgun my man ...... / but it is a priveledge to shoot some nice looking guns.

 

[4thPointofContact]

The Michelin Tweel(r).

What you're seeing is the technology demonstrator, like you might find in a 'cutaway' pistol or rifle showing the inner workings. The production wheel would look 'normal'.

I could see a stock that collapsed in the direction of recoil and then rebound back. It would just be a further development of the Knoxx recoil reducing stock out already.

 

[zippy13]

Since we seem to be doing a shoulder-saver show-n-tell. Here's one of my skeet guns with a JS Air Cushion and a trap gun with a Shock Master. Both stocks use a G-Squared air unit.

 

[hogdogs]

More gun porn of the nice sexy clothes... Nice guns...
what is one of them recoil systems setting ya'll back these days?
Brent

 

[zippy13]

Brent
The Shock Master conversion starts at $700 <www.shockmaster.com>. I don't know how much the JS (Joe Shiozaki) conversion goes for these days (no web page), mine was considerably more than my Shock Master unit.

 

[BigJimP]

Gra Coil is about $ 600 - $750 installed depending on the model you pick.

Some of the new Brownings - like the XT Gold come with the Gra-Coil installed now and for about $4,500 ( but you get the whole gun..). I really like the Gra Coil on a Trap gun.

At one point, I put a system called a "soft touch" developed in Portland into my 12ga Skeet gun and another Sporting Clays gun / about $ 1250 per gun with all the options - and I didn't like it. The idea of the Soft Touch - was to make the gun stock recoil into your shoulder - but the comb stay's stationary / nice concept. With the Gra-Coil - the whole stock moves to the rear including the comb.

I thought the Soft Touch was a little too soft / and I had a hard time getting it stiffer despite changing springs, etc. When I got it stiffer - it seemed to take too long to return to battery. Because the comb stayed stationary - and I have big hands - my thumb was often bumping the front edge of the comb - as the stock recoiled under the comb. That was also aggravating - and the only solution was to cut back the comb - and then the lines on the gun ( from the pistol grip area, to the comb, looked funny ). I sold one gun / restocked the other gun - it was a $ 5,000 mistake ....

I was trying to get over a fractured shoulder blade, some arthritis, etc - and still shoot - and after going thru all that, I bought a Benelli Super Sport with the comfort tech system in it ( even today for $ 1875 new ) and it was a great gun. As my shoulder healed - I've gone back to my standard O/U Brownings ( no recoil system ) on Skeet and Sporting Clays - and if my shoulder is bad, I may shoot the Benelli - or just shoot a 20 or 28ga that day.

 

[zippy13]

BigJimP

I thought the Soft Touch was a little too soft / and I had a hard time getting it stiffer despite changing springs, etc. When I got it stiffer - it seemed to take too long to return to battery.

The air unit has the advantage of variable pressure. There's even a little pump, with a gauge and relief valve, that connects via a hole in the recoil pad. If you're a four gun shooter, in an attempt for uniformity, you can make the thing rock hard for the .410 and progressively softer for the 28, 20 and 12-gauge events.
With rebounding stocks, there is a vast difference of opinion about what feels right. Some folks like 'um rock hard while others like their's feeling like a sack of mush. With an air unit, adjustment is infinite and can be done quickly. Ya pays yer money and takes yer choice.

 

[Scorch]

That type of construction in a recoil pad is what made Pachmayr famous. If you want even more recoil reduction, look at the pad on a new Browning Cynergy. Same idea.

 

[Mike U.]

That is quite possibly the sexiest wood I have ever seen on any gun.
And, I am a wood junky, of sorts. Very few things rival the beauty of a wonderfully grained wood, IMO.
Before the untimely death of my wife three and a half years ago, I was an avid hobbyist/spare time knife maker. Exotic woods were my material of choice for the handles. I still have about 500 lbs. of exotic wood from all over the world, as the plan was to go part or full time knife making on retirement. I was stocking up for that time. I also have over a thousand pounds of bar steel left over too. 1084, 5160, 52100, D-2, 440-c, W-2 and O-1 for those of you who are knife steel aficionados.
Anyway, even with all that gorgeous wood in my locker, those shotgun's furniture really are some of, if not the, very best I've ever seen to date.

Thank you for sharing! I'll bet your shotgun commands all the attention at the range when it comes out to play, huh?

And BTW, thanks for bringing these recoil reducing systems to light. It's good to know you don't have to sacrifice a gun's beautiful furniture to gain some reduction of recoil. Now I want some shotguns with nice wood furniture. You guys are bad news for my checking account.