best non-JHP bullet design?

[Cato]

We have a fairly stupid and strange law here in Austria- it bans "jacket hollowpoints", but full metal hollowpoints are legal as
well as any other nonhollowpoint design.
Since I don't want to give up my Glocks, I can't use the lead hollowpoint revolver loads.
Maybe you can help me find more pros and cons of the various alternatives which I found in gunmagazine articles and over the net:

*lead Hydrashoks ( discontinued )
*Hirtenberger EMB ( not available for civillians- even in the US ) )
*Geco BAT ( not available for civillians )
*Triton CQD Frangible ( accuracy problems, http://www.triton-ammo.com/cqd.html )
*Cor-Bon BeeSafe ( fairly expensive, http://www.cor-bon.com/beesafe.htm )
*Aquila .45 High Power ( http://www.aguilaammo.com/45acp.htm )
*Mullins ESM ( fairly expensive, very unproven design?, http://www.sunlink.net/~jlray/JM/eca.html )
*RBCD TFSP ( new design?, http://www.rbcd.net/prod02.htm )
*Federal Nyclad ( maybe not legal due to the plastic "jacket" )
*Triton Quick Shok Softpoints ( not available yet )
*Pro-Load Defender ( not available yet )
*light softpoints in .357 Sig ( must be handloaded )

Which one would you choose and why?
Thanks in advance
Cato

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[Steve Smith]

Hmm, interesting. Maybe just go with FMJs and plan on shooting more than a double tap? This is a similar question to one I have, so I'll ask it too. I have a Taurus .454 Casull. What are the thought on loading some .45 Long Colts up with full wadcutter (semi-soft) bullets (at around 900 fps) for a house gun?

 

[Morgan]

Tough situation. I'd stay clear of the frangibles. Perhaps a truncated cone FMJ? I understand the wounding caused by plain ball .40 S&W is fairly impressive, and speculation is that its due to the flat point crushing instead of slipping through the flesh.

 

[cdf]

I recomend MagSafe ammunition.
A copper jacket filled with polymer resin and steel shot. It is low grain and travels at much higher than average velocity. Tremendous and early energy dump.

 

[CastleBravo]

A possible answer for you:

I just broke out my box of Winchester Super-X (aka Silvertips) for my 10mm and they *look* like they are metal-plated inside and out. If they are available in .40S&W they might be your answer. I've only seen them abbreviated as "STHP" , not "JHP."

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CastleBravo

 

[George Hill]

The Mullins ammo is good stuff if you want frangable ammo... a little better price that the others.
But I would just stick to some Soft Points. If it was FMJ only - I would opt for lighter and faster rounds.

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[Paul B.]

Frontsight. Your wadcutter idea would work well. I had the same idea using 208 gr. wadcutteres in .44 Spl. in my .44 Mags.
BUT. If you use a specially designed load like you describe, an anti-gun D.A. will hang you out to dry. "You used special ammunition that you designed to kill intruders in your home, etc. ad nauseum.
I think you get my point. Yes. Your idea will work, but I don't advise it.
BTW. They make excellent small game loads.
Paul B.

 

[ak9]

RBCD is a San Antonio, Tx. company, which has taken a different tack to the light weight, high speed projectile. I have used them and they are great! Makes my Kimber elite feel like a cannon with no increase in felt recoil and very accurate, but they are a little pricey. I believe they run about $29 US for 20. Still that is cheaper then the others of this type. The round is especially designed to prevent over penetration by expending all its energy into the target, but is designed to be very stable in flight due to the uniform weight distribution in the construction of the bullet. I'm impressed. I only wish I could afford to shoot it more often. They make ammo in all the major calibers. Visit their website and I think you will be impressed. Real nice folks also. Rosco is the person I have dealt with on several occaisions. I had another thought. American Bullet Manufacturing Company here in Corpus Christi, TX. makes a very clean,no lead, flashless, (yeah I was skeptical to until I shot it at night) totally encapsilated HP round which would fit the bill nicely. I do not know if they have a web site as I just go down the the street to buy them. If you are interested I could get their address for you. It really is good stuff. About $17 US for used brass(I have had zero problems with this stuff. Good as new brass. Each round checked for chambering according to George) or $23 for new brass. That is for 50 rounds. They ship in cases (read that as buckets) of 1000 for the smaller calibers and 500 for the larger calibers .45 and up. I do not know if George will give you a price break on cases or not. Didn't give me one.


[This message has been edited by ak9 (edited December 27, 1999).]