ok i bought me a 22/45 and going to do a few mods to it like a pac-lite upper with a threaded barrel. i like the fact it has a threaded barrel for a compressor, but it also can be for a suppressor. i have no problem going to my local sheriff to sign the form needed, but only thing against my record other than traffic violations is a domestic dispute charge like 14 years ago. will that prohibit me getting the tax stamp?
another redundant supressor question for missouri.
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David Hineline
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In MO you will also have to get a C+R or other FFL license. If you can pass a NICS check for a firearms purchase you can own NFA firearms.
Beretta686
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Are just private individuals in MO required to be FFLs or does that apply to Corps or Trusts also?
I've got the same set-up. You'll love it.
I've got the same set-up. You'll love it.
Willie Lowman
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You must get a C&R or other FFL...
A trust may not be used however I understand a corp or LLC can...
A trust may not be used however I understand a corp or LLC can...
ok i read up on the c&r license on this site http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2005/howtogetyourcurionrelicffl03/index.asp im gonna go that route. seems the easiest and cheapest. after i do that then i gotta do the tax stamp and still get the sherrif to sign that paperwork. so it is all up to my local sheriff to sign that paper then.... if my local sheriff in my town wont. can i got to any sheriff in Missouri?
Speedy Warrior
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Hi everyone sorry to dig up this old thread but I have a question about this question.
So after reading about what a C&R is i don't understand how a person with a ffl 03 C&R can buy/own a suppressor in Missouri. Would it have to a 50 year old suppressor? Can anyone shead a little more light on this for me?
So after reading about what a C&R is i don't understand how a person with a ffl 03 C&R can buy/own a suppressor in Missouri. Would it have to a 50 year old suppressor? Can anyone shead a little more light on this for me?
I have the C&R app on my dresser to mail in.
Missouri changed the suppressor ownership law in Aug of 2008. You can now possess them if you have an FFL license. The C&R license is, so that suffices. Go the BATF website and request the application on line or by phone. Their hard copy is the only one they accept at the present. Fill out both sets, one for the BATF, one to mail to the Authority in charge of your specific legal jurisdiction. That's the responding agency if you dial 911, not the post office town name on your address. That jurisdiction gets the other copy of the BATF form.
You pay $30 for a three year license. Understand it allows you to buy C&R legal firearms and ship them directly to your home. You are required to log them into a "bound" book to verify they are on the premises, subject to the rare inspection by the BATF. It does not make you a FFL for a living, collecting sales tax, and dealing in non-C&R firearms.
License in hand, you can then purchase an suppressor, which requires going through the NFA hurdles of the BATF. That is a completely different procedure, where either the "Chief Law Enforcerer's" signature, or a trust set up and registered for the county are needed.
There are good reasons for a CLEO to refuse to sign - unfunded mandate, or simply never having to know what's out there if confronted by the media. That's not a bad position, as the BATF would be "to blame" for some future situation. Don't take it personally, especially if they don't even know you. It's been recommended and done to have a trust drawn up in Quicken, but many will insist it be a lawyer do it. You decide, suppressors aren't cheap once the price, $200 tax stamp, and the wait are all factored in.
Missouri does not presently have a regulation against using a suppressor when hunting. After all the hoop jumping, having an agent confiscate a suppressor, firearm, vehicle, plus any seat time in jail, it would seem to be irresponsible to also be ignorant of hunting regulations.
Step #1, C&R. Step #2, NFA application. Save your pennies up.
Missouri changed the suppressor ownership law in Aug of 2008. You can now possess them if you have an FFL license. The C&R license is, so that suffices. Go the BATF website and request the application on line or by phone. Their hard copy is the only one they accept at the present. Fill out both sets, one for the BATF, one to mail to the Authority in charge of your specific legal jurisdiction. That's the responding agency if you dial 911, not the post office town name on your address. That jurisdiction gets the other copy of the BATF form.
You pay $30 for a three year license. Understand it allows you to buy C&R legal firearms and ship them directly to your home. You are required to log them into a "bound" book to verify they are on the premises, subject to the rare inspection by the BATF. It does not make you a FFL for a living, collecting sales tax, and dealing in non-C&R firearms.
License in hand, you can then purchase an suppressor, which requires going through the NFA hurdles of the BATF. That is a completely different procedure, where either the "Chief Law Enforcerer's" signature, or a trust set up and registered for the county are needed.
There are good reasons for a CLEO to refuse to sign - unfunded mandate, or simply never having to know what's out there if confronted by the media. That's not a bad position, as the BATF would be "to blame" for some future situation. Don't take it personally, especially if they don't even know you. It's been recommended and done to have a trust drawn up in Quicken, but many will insist it be a lawyer do it. You decide, suppressors aren't cheap once the price, $200 tax stamp, and the wait are all factored in.
Missouri does not presently have a regulation against using a suppressor when hunting. After all the hoop jumping, having an agent confiscate a suppressor, firearm, vehicle, plus any seat time in jail, it would seem to be irresponsible to also be ignorant of hunting regulations.
Step #1, C&R. Step #2, NFA application. Save your pennies up.
threecharley
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My stepdad had a domestic dispute 25 yrs ago and a protective order placed and removed from him and they wont issue a CCW or a sbr tax stamp to him in oklahoma.. hope this helps.
Speedy Warrior
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Thank you Tirod. I was anaware of the law change. In your post you have the steps of going through the atf hoops but I thought if you had a ffl then you could buy without a background check everytime? Or does that not apply for class 3 items without a SOT?
David Hineline
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The original poster is in MO so a trust does not apply to him.
He needs get the C&R then he can go silencer shopping subject to the whims of his local CLEO.
So he should talk to his CLEO and local NFA dealer first to make sure the process will go through where he chose to live.
He needs get the C&R then he can go silencer shopping subject to the whims of his local CLEO.
So he should talk to his CLEO and local NFA dealer first to make sure the process will go through where he chose to live.
Cheapshooter
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A little OT, but while you are waiting for you 03FFL, check out the cool firearms that you will be able to buy on-line from various distributors, and shipped directly to your house. Even several that are quite adequate for CCW.
This site will provide a lot of information. http://milsurpshooter.net/
Click on C&R Dealer links.