another H&R hammerless breaktop
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Heyjoe,
It is a 2nd Model SMALL FRAME HAMMERLESS "BICYCLE" model. There should be a stamp on the top strap with Manufacturer's name and address only.
These are difficult to date without a detailed exam for minor differences. However, the 2nd model itself was in production from 1905 to 1941. With that type of frame, it was made before circa 1925. If you give me the serial number, I can attempt to give a better idea of era, however the serial numbers for this model are all mixed up in some cases.
It is a 2nd Model SMALL FRAME HAMMERLESS "BICYCLE" model. There should be a stamp on the top strap with Manufacturer's name and address only.
These are difficult to date without a detailed exam for minor differences. However, the 2nd model itself was in production from 1905 to 1941. With that type of frame, it was made before circa 1925. If you give me the serial number, I can attempt to give a better idea of era, however the serial numbers for this model are all mixed up in some cases.
Heyjoe,
Your SMALL FRAME HAMMERLESS "BICYCLE" was made between 1916 and 1924 and is similar to the 6th Variation of the standard model. With the s/n that high in the range - year of manufacture is most likely late in the period, 1923 or so.
Here's a pic of a couple "BICYCLE" hammerless pieces:
Your SMALL FRAME HAMMERLESS "BICYCLE" was made between 1916 and 1924 and is similar to the 6th Variation of the standard model. With the s/n that high in the range - year of manufacture is most likely late in the period, 1923 or so.
Here's a pic of a couple "BICYCLE" hammerless pieces:
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32 Magnum, i allso have a old H&R hammerless .32 bicycle mod. ser number is 106580 located on bottom of frame grip and 206530 under the top strap. any idea when it was made? the nickle finish is pretty worn but lock up is tight and gets a few rounds through it now and then. thanks.
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The serial numbers on the grip frame and under the top strap should match (unless the gun was rebuilt from two separate guns). I'll bet if you wiped the numbers down and cleaned them off a bit - then using a "cheater" (magnifying glass) you'll find that they are the same number. The digits are too close to each other in conformation to be from different guns. Let me know what you find - I've seen dozens of H&R hinged frames where firing gunk/residue has built up under the top strap to the point where the serial number is very difficult to, in some cases, even see, let alone read correctly - I'm willing to bet that the number on the grip frame, which is generally protected by the grip panels, is the correct number. Use a cheater to confirm.
Also, is there a "cartridge" stamp on the left side of the barrel? - it would be either .32 S&W CTG (5 shot) or .22 RIM FIRE (7 shot). Either serial number you posted will, most likely, make your piece a 2nd Model Smokeless powder made in or after 1905 and the presence of that stamping will be definitive.
The serial numbers on the grip frame and under the top strap should match (unless the gun was rebuilt from two separate guns). I'll bet if you wiped the numbers down and cleaned them off a bit - then using a "cheater" (magnifying glass) you'll find that they are the same number. The digits are too close to each other in conformation to be from different guns. Let me know what you find - I've seen dozens of H&R hinged frames where firing gunk/residue has built up under the top strap to the point where the serial number is very difficult to, in some cases, even see, let alone read correctly - I'm willing to bet that the number on the grip frame, which is generally protected by the grip panels, is the correct number. Use a cheater to confirm.
Also, is there a "cartridge" stamp on the left side of the barrel? - it would be either .32 S&W CTG (5 shot) or .22 RIM FIRE (7 shot). Either serial number you posted will, most likely, make your piece a 2nd Model Smokeless powder made in or after 1905 and the presence of that stamping will be definitive.