Amer ammo
:barf: I have only had experience with the 45 ACP and I can attest,it's not good.The company calls thier line"C-3",or complete copper coat.Close inspection of the bullet looks as if the copper shell has been hammered on to a lead bullet.Plus it was dirtier than most I've shot,which is a big negative for me.If your looking for extremely cheap ammo,try Wolf or Blazer.I reload as much as possible but as far as I'm concerned,the Magtech brand is pretty hard to beat when it comes to cost,accuracy and quality control.I even like it better than American Eagle or UMC.Then again,this is only 45ACP.