Al Gore - War Hero!

Karanas

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Only by having a draft dodger for a predecessor could a REMF aspire to such delusions.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20000528/aponline152353_000.htm

Campaign Touts Gore's Army Days

By Sandra Sobieraj
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON –– In campaign ads, Al Gore displays a photo of his Vietnam-era self in fatigues with an M-16 slung over his shoulder. On the trail, he asks campaign crowds, "How many other Vietnam veterans are here? Welcome home. I'm a Vietnam veteran."
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Among veterans, Gore is running as one of them – right down to the American Legion hat he likes to wear at a jaunty angle when campaigning at Legion halls – although he was a noncombat information officer.

As an Army journalist, Gore said he "carried a reporter's notepad and pencil in one pocket and a fully loaded M-16," which he said he never aimed or fired.

"You carry an M-16, a fully loaded M-16, for a reason. You hope to never have to use it," he told The Associated Press in an interview.

The campaign sees his Vietnam service as "an important piece of his biography and background," Gore spokesman Chris Lehane said.

Republican George W. Bush, on the other hand, rarely talks about his stateside service with the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam years.

He is far from nostalgic in public about his days as a pilot. Asked recently if he still flies, Bush brusquely answered "no" and walked past.

Bush, who in a bitter GOP primary had to face Sen. John McCain's heroic story of being a POW in Vietnam, instead talks about restoring morale to U.S. troops by bringing honor and dignity back to the Oval Office.

He also promises to rebuild the military and stresses, through a proposed $3 billion-per-year spending increase on veterans' health care, repayment of a "debt of honor" to American veterans who he says have been neglected by the Clinton administration.

The separate appeals to veterans are offshoots of each candidate's drive to be seen as having what it takes to be commander in chief. For now, national polls give Bush the lead among veterans, almost 2-to-1 in a recent CNN/USA Today/Gallup survey.

The contest played out again this weekend in Memorial Day appearances: Gore gave the commencement address Saturday at the U.S. Military Academy in West Point, N.Y., and planned to visit with veterans in western Pennsylvania veterans on Monday, while Bush was to spend the holiday with soldiers at Texas' Fort Hood.

Gore recently told a veterans' gathering in Little Rock, Ark., that he has made it his project in the White House to give President Clinton recommendations on how to resolve the problem of armed services personnel who make so little that they are eligible for food stamps. The Gore camp has not offered details.

By way of connecting with veterans, Gore notes that, as a member of Congress from Tennessee, he co-founded a caucus of Vietnam-era veterans.

For Gore, images from his Army days also are part of a broader attempt to introduce his life story to voters who have gotten to know him only as Clinton's No. 2.

Gore's strategists blame his stagnant poll numbers on what they say is the public's unfamiliarity with the candidate, and they are expected to focus their first wave of general-election TV ads on his biography. Those biographical spots, as during the primaries and in his 1988 presidential campaign, are likely to feature a snapshot of him in Army fatigues.

During the primaries, Bush said war stories are less likely to influence veterans' votes than leadership experience.

"I think voters are going to say I'd be a better commander in chief because I've had chief executive experience. I know how to set goals. I know how to make decisions. I know how to rally people," Bush said, at the time comparing himself to McCain.

Said his spokesman, Ari Fleischer, "The governor has military service, the governor is a veteran. ... But he does not view this election as a personal referendum on his resume, and he doesn't think the voters are going to base their choice on Al Gore's resume. They're going to base it on who they think will make a stronger leader."

Gore's biography – right out of Harvard, he enlisted in the Army, then volunteered for Vietnam duty – includes five months in-country as a military information specialist, a noncombatant role that he says included brushes with enemy fire.

Gore and his aides are sensitive about not over-trumpeting his military days.

Friends have said that one reason that Gore, who opposed the war, enlisted was his fear that dodging the draft might hurt his senator-father's re-election chances. As it turned out, the late Al Gore Sr. lost anyway.

Gore shies away from talking about Bush's National Guard service.

"I don't pass judgment on the decisions that anybody else made during that time of the Vietnam War, because everybody faced a different situation, and the country was in the midst of a big mistake," he said. "So much time has passed we ought to give everybody a break on whatever decisions they made considering whether to serve or not to serve."

How much does military background matter? Not that much, suggested Charles Wright of Corning, Ark., a past state commander for the Veterans of Foreign Wars who recently turned out to hear Gore in Little Rock.

"I don't support Gore. I support the man in office who supports veterans' issues," said Wright, who served in the Navy in Vietnam. "I vote for the person who is going to do the job properly."
 

RWK

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Gore briefly served as an Army enlisted journalist, including some time in-country, while his father was a particularly influential Senator. As a twenty-year active duty retiree (peace and war, afloat, ashore and overseas), I respect all who served honorably. However, it is fair to say that Gore's service certainly was NOT typical. Accordingly, I find his pandering to veterans as insincere as it is politically motivated.
 

Munro Williams

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Gore's playing a pre-pubescent's game of soldiers, praying that everyone else is crazier than he is. If his pals in the media spin it right, he could pull it off. Remember, folks, TeeVee is more important than reality to most people.
 

ak9

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Algore needs his head examined. He sniffed to much Agent Orange when someone told him it was colored coke.
 

Ed Brunner

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If I am correct Al served about five months in RVN as a photog for Stars&Stripes. Also I haven't heard that he mentioned the privately paid civilian bodyguard who accompanied him.
For him to pretend that he is a combat veteran is much like saying he invented the internet.
But then olslick got a standing ovation from the American Legion or was it the VFW?

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K80Geoff

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Tell me this, why did a college graduate of a top ivy league school only serve as an enlisted man. Someone with his education and family ties should have been an officer. Now he wants to be commander in chief of the armed forces when he accepted almost no responsibility as a private in military service. Did he even make Spec 4 as a soldier (this is the equivalent of corporal in vietnam era US Army). Remember the last corporal who rose to commander in chief of a nation's armed forces?

Just about every President in this century except for you know who was an officer. Even Dubya was an officer, albiet in the guard (legal draft dodging in the vietnam war).

Gore showed absolutely no leadership in his military service, did he even have leadership potential, even for the vietnam era US Army?

Now we are to believe he is the best man to be commander in chief? Jeez! :(


Geoff Ross

And yes, I was both enlisted and an Officer, and I didn't graduate from an Ivy League school.
 

Donny

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Yeah, an Internet hero. Oh yeah, he invented the Internet.
That's why there's so much kiddie porn, I imagine...

Best Regards,
Don

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Thirty_Handicap

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Not too long ago I read an article that linked Al Gore Sr., the influential senator, to General Westmoreland. Surprisingly, it wasn't a coincidence that Al Jr. was able to get a cushy position and serve during the war during an election year for his dad. I can't vouch for it's truth, but I read it in a mainstream magazine (News-weap or Useless Views and World Distort, I think).
 

tombread

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It should be noted about Bush, lest the article seem to present him as being modest about his military career, that inquiries are now being made into where he was the last year to 18 months of his duty. He was nowhere to be found, he had stopped flying, he wasn't on station anywhere, and there are no records of him attending any Guard meetings. No wonder he doesn't want to talk about flying or his service! He apparently gave himself an early discharge.
 

ArmySon

Staff Alumnus
After the crap myself and fellow combat vets have gone through, hearing Al Gore proclaim himself as a war vet is an insult. Piece of ****
 

Coinneach

Staff Alumnus
He is far from nostalgic in public about his days as a pilot. Asked recently if he still flies, Bush brusquely answered "no" and walked past.

Combat vets don't usually wax nostalgic about their time in country. REMFs pound their chests and yark about how They Were There... conveniently omitting the boot-shining and butt-kissing parts.
 

Mikul

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Donny,
Al Gore, Kiddie Porn. That's funny.

Although I think you're onto something. Al Gore has admitted to inventing the Internet. The Internet is full of pornography that is easily available to children. As its inventor, Al Gore is liable for the corruption of minors for not including porno controls when he invented the Internet.

Hey, if the gun makers are responsible for murders, then he is responsible too. The sad truth is that I'm positive that I could find a lawyer to take this case... and I've got a decent chance of winning.
 

sumabich

Moderator
I'll say this once again. Al Gore is an idiot! I'm not a vet but even I can see that! Brother ArmySon says it best "POS"! Did anyone else see he and Bill's visit to the home of Thomas Jefferson back in 92 where he kept asking "who's that"! and finally Bill lost his cool. Anything he says or does at this point is a result of Bill's "spin doctors" re-shaping his image to gain support! Money can buy a lot but I'll bet the good doctors are spending a lot of overtime trying to turn a pigs ear into a silk purse. Tell everyone you know to vote against this spineless ameoba! Bush sucks in some areas but he's our lesser of two evils. On another post, one member urged us to vote Bush and work on installing Libitarians in local and state elections. That to me seems resonable. We MUST rid ourselves of the Clinton agenda and then urge prosecution for "War Crimes"! ESAD! If you don't know what that means, email me and I'll tell you!
 

Allen_Raiford

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So Algore joined up so as not to hurt his father's campaign. He spent 5 months in RVN, although the tour of duty usually called for serving 1 year. What time of year did he return? Could it have been in November-right after the elections?
 

Ledbetter

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Private bodyguard? Gor a source, Ed? (No offense.)

I am no veteran, but I never heard of any soldier who hoped he would never "have to fire" his gun. This guy will drown in his own $#|+ before November (knock on wood).
 

paratrooper

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ed Brunner:
If I am correct Al served about five months in RVN as a photog for Stars&Stripes. Also I haven't heard that he mentioned the privately paid civilian bodyguard who accompanied him.
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Why didn't the body guard carry the rifle for him ? And call him B'Wana .


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