30 Caliber
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stubbicatt
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Do they shoot well?
When I look at the bullet on the left it appears to be a two diameter bullet, the nose section smaller than the shank portion.
Those are some significant crimping grooves. Do you find that you have a very heavy crimp with these bullets? Does a very heavy crimp help them to shoot well?
When I look at the bullet on the left it appears to be a two diameter bullet, the nose section smaller than the shank portion.
Those are some significant crimping grooves. Do you find that you have a very heavy crimp with these bullets? Does a very heavy crimp help them to shoot well?
They do shoot well. The Lyman 311440
is a great 30-30 bullet. It hits hard for the 150 gr. weight.
The NOE 311284
The NOE 311284
I purchased for my 30-06. I've not took time to shoot this bullet much but it did work fair with IMR 4895.
I do slightly crimp the smaller bullet for the 30-30 but the larger bullet uses no crimp in the '06.
I do slightly crimp the smaller bullet for the 30-30 but the larger bullet uses no crimp in the '06.
First off, HAPPY NEW YEAR to you all.
Good to see you back Lynn, hope all is well with you and yours.
That one on the left there DOES look like it hits hard. I have a similar mold but couldn't tell you right now if it is that one or not. I tried some out of my little Ruger 16.5" barreled .308 loaded to what I thought was about 30-30 velocities. WOW, they shot awesome, but all I recovered was pieces. I'm sure it would have done better on something a bit less resistant than a bucket full of damp sand, but I would hate to have thought I put one into the shoulder of a deer and it did that.
What is your powder choice for the 30-30? I have a 14" Contender chambered in 30-30 AI I am thinking about trying them in next, well once I get some more poured up anyway.
Got to run good to see you all again especially you Lynn. You and your coffee pot need to come around more often.
Good to see you back Lynn, hope all is well with you and yours.
That one on the left there DOES look like it hits hard. I have a similar mold but couldn't tell you right now if it is that one or not. I tried some out of my little Ruger 16.5" barreled .308 loaded to what I thought was about 30-30 velocities. WOW, they shot awesome, but all I recovered was pieces. I'm sure it would have done better on something a bit less resistant than a bucket full of damp sand, but I would hate to have thought I put one into the shoulder of a deer and it did that.
What is your powder choice for the 30-30? I have a 14" Contender chambered in 30-30 AI I am thinking about trying them in next, well once I get some more poured up anyway.
Got to run good to see you all again especially you Lynn. You and your coffee pot need to come around more often.
Thanks for the kind words Mike, retirement keeps me busy. I've shot IMR 3031 with most my cast 30/30 loads. I'm still working with this bullet but have excellent results with the RCBS 30-180-FN using 22 grains. That bullet engraved the lands on it's nose an would stay under 2" at a hundred sometimes going a 1/2 inch less. While the Lyman doesn't engrave the lands it is a snug fit. I love my thurty thurty. It's one of the first post 64 Winchester's to come off the line. I'm on my phone now and have a funeral to preach today but when things settle down I'll try to post a few more pics.
BTW I do check in from time to time to be sure Beagle & you are behaving.
BTW I do check in from time to time to be sure Beagle & you are behaving.
I see right now how this is gonna be....
I have to say I have been behaving nicely, and playing well with others, even if I have say so myself.
Right now I am in the middle (argg) of getting a couple of batches of cast .410's done up to send over to a local fella as a PIF sort of thing. Got all set up and ready to size some on my Saeco and wouldn't ya know it I can't find the darned top punch....got some ordered from NOE hopefully be here ASAP.
Meanwhile, well took last night off since the inlaws are here, I'm also going to send out another little care package of mixed .358's to a fella over in NC to see if he can find something that will work in his S&W model 28.
They both are just getting into casting and are hoping to find something that will work before spending the extra for custom molds.
I worked for about an hour on Sunday before I was ready to chunk several MP, Lee, and a couple of Lyman molds out in the back yard. Fortunately for me though, I'm a calm cool headed fella and after taking a little walk around the shop to adjust the radio and try for the fifth time to win some concert tickets by being the 12 caller, (yeah right,) I decided to simply jack up the heat and whatcha know, I got handfulls of nice looking bullets just a jumping outta the molds.
So this evening I'll be rooting around to see what I already have poured up in .358, lubing and sizing those, and getting them ready to head East.
See there and ya'll thought I was just sittin around here thinking of ways to stir the pot...
I have to say I have been behaving nicely, and playing well with others, even if I have say so myself.
Right now I am in the middle (argg) of getting a couple of batches of cast .410's done up to send over to a local fella as a PIF sort of thing. Got all set up and ready to size some on my Saeco and wouldn't ya know it I can't find the darned top punch....got some ordered from NOE hopefully be here ASAP.
Meanwhile, well took last night off since the inlaws are here, I'm also going to send out another little care package of mixed .358's to a fella over in NC to see if he can find something that will work in his S&W model 28.
They both are just getting into casting and are hoping to find something that will work before spending the extra for custom molds.
I worked for about an hour on Sunday before I was ready to chunk several MP, Lee, and a couple of Lyman molds out in the back yard. Fortunately for me though, I'm a calm cool headed fella and after taking a little walk around the shop to adjust the radio and try for the fifth time to win some concert tickets by being the 12 caller, (yeah right,) I decided to simply jack up the heat and whatcha know, I got handfulls of nice looking bullets just a jumping outta the molds.
So this evening I'll be rooting around to see what I already have poured up in .358, lubing and sizing those, and getting them ready to head East.
See there and ya'll thought I was just sittin around here thinking of ways to stir the pot...
Sounds like ya busy in Texas. I'm away from the pot at present trying to line out three 700 Remington rifles for an up coming p-dog hunt. One has yet to be fired (by me) and will probably need bedded. Also have a 03A3 cleaned & an ready for some boolits & who knows which road that will lead down? So not in much meanness here either. Maybe it was Beagle after all.
Had to be, he likes to stir the pot and then just say he was fluxing things up.
Seriously though, I enjoy the kindred spirits here, as much or more than, well as I do elsewhere.
We might not always be on the leading edge of things but what we discuss and work through is meaningful to those who pursue this craft.
Oh and keep me updated on those 03A3 loads. I have oh around 5 of them in various forms around here, I would like to get going with something.
To begin with I'm going to try "The Load" in my 03-A3, 16 grains of 2400. Will also try a reduced load with Promo. I have a NOE clone of the RCBS 30-180-FN to try first. Hope to get at that before too long.
I did manage some range time today with two of my 700 Remington rifles. Got prairie dogs on my mind.
I did manage some range time today with two of my 700 Remington rifles. Got prairie dogs on my mind.
I'm wrestling with two 98/22 Mausers that I have decided oughta shoot cast. But they don't want to. So I have enlisted help from a few folks and am troubleshooting these two and trying to figure out why they are leading with my cast bullets.
I have powdercoated them, lubed them on top of that, and rolled them in Ben's Liquid Lube (alox and Johnson floor wax) on top of the other stuff, and they still lead up from end to end.
'Gotta cast the chambers in Cerrosafe (been getting tips on how to do that without getting it all in the locking lugs and unwanted places) and I have a no-go gauge on the way from Brownell's to check the chambers. Then I'll work my way through the other things that might cause it as well.
I have powdercoated them, lubed them on top of that, and rolled them in Ben's Liquid Lube (alox and Johnson floor wax) on top of the other stuff, and they still lead up from end to end.
'Gotta cast the chambers in Cerrosafe (been getting tips on how to do that without getting it all in the locking lugs and unwanted places) and I have a no-go gauge on the way from Brownell's to check the chambers. Then I'll work my way through the other things that might cause it as well.
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Maybe the barrels are rough? I have a 223 which looked perfect but I knew it took way too long to clean. Once I removed the copper my gunsmith looked through the bore scope & let me see. That barrel is horrible. One land has a section gone from it. Haven't tried cast in this one but it still shoots condom bullets great for a factory gun. Any way just a thought.
I loaded some nice NOE 326471 (I believe they were) that were powdercoated, then lubed halfway up with TAC#1 (Randy Rat's lube) and also rolled them heavily in Bens Liquid Lube and let that dry. They still load smoothly and chamber fine and when ejected, show no marks at all on the bullet. They are loaded over 13gr of RedDot and the COL is 2.860 and gas checked with aluminum checks. The alloy should be about 11.5 bhn.
And I know those powdercoated bullets work. I use that color and coating in my 30-30 all the time with no problems. The bore is always shiny afterward.
I looked all through the barrel with my endoscope before shooting them and it looked pretty clean and smooth. Perhaps I didn't get 100% of the copper out, but I thought I got most of it.
I'm going to experiment with sizes after I cast the chamber and make sure the headspace is correct.
And I know those powdercoated bullets work. I use that color and coating in my 30-30 all the time with no problems. The bore is always shiny afterward.
I looked all through the barrel with my endoscope before shooting them and it looked pretty clean and smooth. Perhaps I didn't get 100% of the copper out, but I thought I got most of it.
I'm going to experiment with sizes after I cast the chamber and make sure the headspace is correct.
stubbicatt
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Oh Beagle. That second barrel has to be a disappointment.
Perhaps leave that one to shoot jacketed bullets, and the other for your cast bullets. Or trade it on another that has a cast bullet friendly bore.
Perhaps leave that one to shoot jacketed bullets, and the other for your cast bullets. Or trade it on another that has a cast bullet friendly bore.
I have my VZ24 at the 'smith now getting turned into a custom 35 Whelen, so this one doesn't get the full conversion right now. I guess I can just buy some jacket rounds and use it. Maybe I'll try to convert it to 8mm 06 and see if that'll get most of it out of there, or just shoot the one with a smooth bore (when I figure out why it isn't shooting cast either) and lean this one against the wall until I save a few pennies for sporting it out.
Or.... maybe I'll hit the $1.3B Powerball on Wednesday and not worry about any of them!
(gotta drive to GA and get a ticket)
Or.... maybe I'll hit the $1.3B Powerball on Wednesday and not worry about any of them!
(gotta drive to GA and get a ticket)